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Medical Intuition, Spirit Communication & the 12 Phases of Transition with Julie Ryan

• Rose Wippich • Episode 89

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What if intuition isn’t a gift reserved for the few—but a skill we can all learn?

In this powerful conversation, Rose sits down with psychic medium and medical intuitive Julie Ryan to explore what truly happens between worlds. Julie shares how she learned her intuitive abilities, how energetic healing works, and why raising your vibration takes far less effort than we’ve been taught.

Together, they dive into medical intuition, spirit guides, dream visitations, grief as a low vibration, and Julie’s profound work documenting the 12 Phases of Transition—the process every soul experiences when leaving the body. Julie also explains how angels, deceased loved ones, and even pets arrive to escort us during death, as detailed in her book Angelic Attendance.

This episode offers comfort, clarity, and a radically empowering perspective on healing, intuition, and what awaits us beyond the veil—reminding us that we are never alone, and that the body and spirit know how to heal when we get out of the way.

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  • Medical intuition & energetic healing
  • Spirit guides and divine downloads
  • Dream visitations and grief
  • The 12 Phases of Transition
  • What really happens when we die
  • Learning to trust your intuitive intelligence

Julie Ryan is a psychic medium, medical intuitive, inventor, and entrepreneur who teaches people worldwide how to access their intuitive abilities. Known for her practical and grounded approach, Julie can scan the body energetically, facilitate healing, communicate with spirits (both living and deceased), access past lives, and work with spirit guides and angels. She is the author of Angelic Attendance and host of the globally syndicated show Ask Julie Ryan, heard in over 100 countries. Julie’s work bridges spirituality and science, empowering people to trust their intuition and understand what truly happens between worlds.

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Rose:

This episode peels back the veil between worlds from the wisdom of spirit guides to the subtle energy of the body's own intuition. Psychic medium and medical intuitive Julie Ryan can sense what medical conditions and illnesses a person has and facilitates energetic healings. She can communicate with spirits both alive and dead. Julie can scan animals, access people's past lives, and she can tell how close to death someone is. Her book, Angelic Attendance, What Really Happens as We Transition from This Life into the Next, describes a series of events that involves angels, multitudes of deceased family and friends, the spirit of deceased pets, and countless serendipitous and miraculous moments. Each week, Julie scans callers on her show, Ask Julie Ryan, which is heard in over a hundred countries throughout the world. I am so excited to have Julie Ryan on the show today. Welcome, Julie.

Julie Ryan:

Thanks so much. I'm delighted to be here.

Rose:

So let's start off by telling the audience how you discovered your abilities as a psychic medium and a medical intuitive.

Julie Ryan:

I learned how to do them. I didn't know that I had any abilities. I'm a businesswoman and an inventor of surgical devices sold throughout the world who learned how to do woo-woo, and I'm a buffet of psychicness. So that's my story, and I'm sticking to it. I teach people all over the world how to do what I do, and it's all learned.

Rose:

Well, that's good news because sometimes we are just lost when we don't know what's going on with ourselves. And it helps to have some of that intuitive guidance. And I know we're all intuitive, right? But knowing that we can learn to be what I like to say, our own healers or aware of what's happening, it just adds such an extra layer of comfort and knowledge for ourselves. Yeah. So you you've done a lot in your life. You are an entrepreneur, an inventor. Maybe you can talk us through what happens during a typical session with someone, or, or actually what you even do on your show. Ask Julie Ryan.

Julie Ryan:

Sure. Every Thursday night at 8 Eastern, people call in from all over the world. It's a blast, Rose. It's so much fun. I never know who's calling. I never know what their question's going to be. I never know what spirit's going to say. And people call in and we can talk to their dead grandma. I can scan them energetically and do an energetic healing on them. We can do one on their pet, on their cat dog, lizard, whatever. We can do past life stuff. We can talk to their angels and their spirit guides. It's really fun. And once we connect with spirit, we can do it all. I never understood why you got the psychics and the mediums and the past life people and the pet psychics and the whatever else. It's like once you connect with spirit, you can do it all. I'm not sure why they're siloed. Everybody has the ability. We all have experienced at some point in our lives when we think of somebody and either they call us or they text us or they email us or we run into them and we think, I was just thinking of you this morning, and here you are. I had that with my brother this morning. I thought of him, and within a second, he was calling me. That's psychic ability. We all do it. We all have it.

Rose:

Well, I was listening to one of your shows, and you talk about how you need to raise your vibration, right? In order to meet spirit. And I know I've learned or I've studied also psychic and medium development, both separately, like you said, siloed, right? But but the the process is very similar, or it's the same. You raise your vibration. Can you talk a little bit about that?

Julie Ryan:

Yeah, I raise my vibration. This is what I teach. Takes a nanosecond to do it. I turn it on and off at will. If you want to meditate for an hour, twirl three times, jump on your left foot and raise your right hand before you do something psychic. That you are welcome to do that, but it's not necessary. And it's like driving a car. You know, with practice, you just get into the car and you turn it on and you drive. You don't even think about it. And so that's what I teach too, is it's just instant. And then our heads are like big satellite dishes and they receive and transmit frequencies. Every spirit has a frequency they keep throughout all of their lifetimes. So in order to get in touch with somebody, you think of them. It doesn't matter whether they're dead or alive, if it's a spirit attached to a body or not, and it's irrelevant whether you knew the person or not. You just think of them that connects your satellite dish head to their frequency. And it opens up something similar to a two-way radio communication. And you say something to them and they're going to answer you. And it's going to feel like a thought in your head. How you'll know that it's coming from the person with whom you're wanting to communicate, or the spirit in heaven, let's say, is when they answer you, it's going to be the first thing, fast as you can snap your fingers that comes into your brain. If you think about it for more than a second, it's going to be your brain talking to you. Yeah. So yeah.

Rose:

And sometimes I think for me, I may not even connect with them. They're already talking to me. So you you can bypass that connection because they're spirits around you.

Julie Ryan:

Well, spirits are always communicating with us. Most of us aren't receiving the communication because we're not tuned to the correct frequency. It's kind of like when you have satellite TV and a storm is going through your area, the satellite signal may be temporarily blocked by the cloud cover or the storm, but that programming is still being broadcast. You're just not receiving it. So you're right. Yes, spirits always communicating with us.

Rose:

So I'm on your one of your episodes of Ask Julie Vine or Ask Julie, uh, somebody asked about um, or you talked about grief, right? And how grief is a low vibration.

Julie Ryan:

Right.

Rose:

And then, you know, we need to be at a higher vibration in order to connect. Because someone asked about connecting with someone who they love that passed. And what you suggested to them is that, or what what they said, the person that passed said that they were going to come in through their dream.

Julie Ryan:

Every night when we go to sleep, we go back to the factory preset high vibration that we come in with. And our brains are at rest. And spirit can communicate with us sometimes more easily when we're asleep. We're not busy, we're not trying to solve issues at work or trying to figure out what we're going to do for dinner or pick up kids or whatever. And so it's a really easy way for spirit to communicate with us when we're in a low vibration. And anything that feels bad is a low vibration. So I will often suggest to people who are grieving, ask your loved one to come visit you in a dream. And inevitably they do. If they don't the first night, keep asking. And they'll come. You'll see. And then once they come, it's going to feel like it's a very vivid dream. It's going to feel like it's in high def almost. The colors will be more vibrant. The senses will be heightened. You'll remember small little details, even if they don't make sense to you. You're going to remember it versus a regular dream is kind of murky and we normally don't remember them after we've woken up.

Rose:

So do you interpret some things through symbols as well?

Julie Ryan:

All the time. Spirit, it's been my experience, Rose, that spirit communicates in numerals. And that's the universal language is numerals. And so they're it's going to come into our brains, and then we we decode it. And we decode it based on how we learn initially. Let's say I'm a visual learner, so I'm going to see things in my mind's eye. And imagination is a huge component of spirit communication. Spirit uses our imagination to help decipher. When World War II was happening, the Allies had departments of people that would decode the Nazi messages. And that's what helped them win the war because they knew what the Nazi plans were with those decoders. So it's similar for us. Our brains are like decoders. So I'll see things, I'll hear things, I'll smell things, I'll feel things, I'll just absolutely know things. I call that divine downloads. And I think all of those skills develop with practice, really. But I teach, let's use what's easiest for you, and then we'll go from there.

Rose:

I love that. Let's talk a little bit about maybe walk us through how you combine your medical intuition with your energetic healing in a session. So, how does that look like for someone who comes in and says, I have an issue uh happening, and you do this whole laser beam thing and uh connect with them. So, what is that? You walk us through something like that for us.

Julie Ryan:

Yeah, I'm like a human MRI, and I can see inside people's bodies with their permission, of course. We touched on that a minute ago. So I raise my vibrational level, it takes a nanosecond, I watch a laser beam in my mind's eye come from my body wherever I am, hooks into them wherever they are. You could be in a galaxy far, far away, and it wouldn't matter. And then I envision shooting energy from their feet up through the top of their head, and it's as if I'm looking at an X-ray or a CT scan or an MRI. Three things happen. Something's identified. I can see broken bones, torn ligaments, viral infections, bacterial infections, cancer, or whatever. Something's identified, and then immediately thereafter, there's some type of energetic healing. Now that can take the form of something getting added, something getting removed. I watch procedures all the time in my mind's eye that emulate what I saw in surgery for many years as an inventor of surgical devices. We were in there testing prototypes and doing clinical studies and things like that. Sometimes I see healings that utilize methodologies and devices that haven't been invented yet. And it's, you may hear me say, Oh, cool, I haven't seen this before. And then it just goes into my repertoire, my different healings that happen. And inevitably, somebody with a similar situation will need that healing. So it's spirit working through me and with me to help that person heal themselves. Because nobody ever heals anybody else. No doctor, no medical provider, no shaman, no healer like me ever. We just help the person heal themselves. And the analogy I like to use for that, Rose, is imagine if you had a big cut on your leg and you went to the emergency room, they're gonna stitch it up for you. But the doctor doesn't make your skin heal. You make your own skin heal. And that's how this works.

Rose:

Wow, I love that. I strongly believe that we are our own healers. Yeah. Um just finding how to do that sometimes, it's it's the harder part. And I was wondering, I know we spoke right before we started, and I and I got your your you're okay to scan me. Would it be appropriate for you to do something like that now, since we just mentioned it, so that listeners can get an idea of how that works? Sure. And then we can go on to talk about the 12 phases of transition and how you work with people with transition, which is fascinating. So okay, so I've had some health health uh scans in the past couple months, this year was a lot, on various organs of my body. I've had it on my uterus and I've had it on my kidney and pancreas by a couple days ago last week, because I have uh cyst on my pancreas. They did a biopsy, they think it's benign from the what they see, but I'm constantly having these little issues like this. And I did have breast cancer a while ago, so I'm always looking over my shoulder and I feel like, well, I don't know. I'm trying to get an answer. Like, why is this happening to me? Is there a lesson learned or something I'm not doing or need to do? I don't drink anymore. I eat very healthy, and it's like I'm living this journey. I feel that this is like a journey for me. And so just want to know what's happening and what I can do to change, maybe or something.

Julie Ryan:

Have you had scans that are showing it?

Rose:

Or did you have some symptoms that Yeah, so some symptoms where it was uh discomfort in in the stomach area. Yeah. Uh and um I had scants that uh showed it and and uh my pancreas, I had uh a fatty tissue first show up uh about seven years ago and now it's doubled, you know. So then I have uh other fatty tissues in other areas too. So it seems to be lumpy. I may be lumpy or bumpy in the inside. It could be nothing, but you know, I was curious as to how to either prevent them or is there is there something that I'm missing energetically? I keep thinking that there's like, you know, because I do a lot of energy and healing work too. So not sure if it's just something I'm going through in a shift or part of my journey. I don't know.

Julie Ryan:

Uh uh Before I get somebody on my radar just listening to it, I get what I call divine downloads. I'm hearing it's your diet. Yeah. Okay. I don't I don't know what you're eating. You're eating stuff that's causing these symptoms. And you say you don't drink alcohol. Do you eat sugar?

Rose:

I have sugar in my coffee. I don't have a lot of sugar. I'm trying to to cut that back on that. It's but the sugar in my coffee seems to be my little treat.

Julie Ryan:

Yeah.

Rose:

Uh, but I'm not a big sugar candy dessert type person. I do eat red meat, which is fat on it. Right. As long as it's grass-fed. Yeah, not always, you know. Every place you go out, it's not always grass-fed. I've also thought it could be diet-related as well. Diet. Absolutely.

Julie Ryan:

And I'll get you on my radar and we'll see what's going on. You want to stay away from the seed oils, too.

Rose:

Okay.

Julie Ryan:

You know, canola oil.

Rose:

Yeah.

Julie Ryan:

Safflower oil, sunflower oil, that kind of stuff. Yeah, I'm Italian, I use olive oil. Olive oil. Yeah. Olive oil, butter, grass fed, that kind of stuff, those fats. And then you're eating you're eating something that's inflammatory. So what could that be? Corn or corn. It could be corn chips. Corn chips. Because they're deep fried in seed oils, most of them.

Rose:

Uh, yeah, yeah. That seems to be that uh more than sugar. I'm more of a salty, crunchy, uh, and and corn chips I think have replaced alcohol for me.

Julie Ryan:

So get the ones that are fried in olive oil or avocado oil. Right. That kind of thing. They've got potato chips that are just avocado oil and sea salt and potatoes. And they're wonderful.

Rose:

Yeah. Yeah.

Julie Ryan:

Yeah. Really good. So yeah, I'm getting at your diet. Let me go in and see what's going on, anyways. So here comes my lease laser beam from Sweet Home, Alabama, where I am. Heading to you. Where are you? New Jersey. Jersey. Heading up to you in Jersey. All right. Got you. Got the hologram of you in my mind's eye. You're being turned around to the back. I can see the growth on your pancreas. It looks benign to me, Rose. It looks pink. If it's malignant, it will normally look brown or black. And it has kind of a sticky consistency to it, like hot tar used to repave a road. That's what it looks like. So here comes the healing. My analogies are hilarious at times. It's how spirit communicates a visual to me so I can in turn and give it to you so you can have just a human understanding of this energy healing that's happening just from a human frame of reference. So those cheese slicers that are just a handle with a thin wire in them, that's what I'm watching get used, something like that. But it's a hot wire, so it's going to cut and cauterize at the same time when it gets that growth off. It goes down into your pancreas a little bit. So I'm watching it kind of curve down in there. So got that going on. Putting stem cell energy on it just to heal it. Light amber colored jellus sparkles in it. Reminds me of Dibbity Doo hair gel from the 60s and 70s. And there's a vortex spinning above it. That centrifugional force in the vortex will regenerate that tissue where that divot was taken out of your pancreas. In the meantime, let's go ahead and clean out your pancreas. So imagine there's a spiral of energy inside rows, and it looks like the Milky Way galaxy spiral. And so it's spinning really fast. And as it comes around on the right side and under underneath, and then up on the left, it's thrown out this kind of sludgy looking stuff. Have you ever seen fudge candy get made like on the walk? Yeah. You know, when they pour it out of the after they've had it cooking, and then they'll pour it on the marble slab, you know, to put in a container to let it solidify. That's what it looks like. It looks like that hot fudge. Not hot fudge that you'd use on a Sunday, but like more like fudge candy. Fudge sludge. Fudge sludge. There you go. So I'm watching that. Those corn chips are are absorbing like sugar. Yeah. Your body is what's happening. And that's why your pancreas is being tacked. Because the sludge that's coming out is very granular. Like fudge candy, fudge, you know, that sludge coming out where the fudge candy is very granular. So that's what's going on, I believe, is those corn chips or anything refined is going to be absorbed by the body like sugar. So if you're going to eat them, be sure you eat them with some kind of fat, like use guacamole or eat a couple handfuls of nuts first just to slow down the sugar absorption.

Rose:

Right, right, right. Yeah, I think I need to switch the diet because I did I I've also eliminated wheat for the past four months or so, and I've been feeling better. So I think I'm on the right track. Yeah. Thank you for validating that. That feels good.

Julie Ryan:

I've seen the masa chips. I haven't tried them, but I've seen them advertised, and they're supposed to be really healthy. I think they're fried in beef tallow.

Rose:

Okay. Yeah. Well, there's so many things now, varieties of uh you know, my son's going to school to be a food scientist, and I always tell him you could change the world, you know. So maybe I'm an example for that, trying new things. But thank you. Thank you for that. That makes me feel good. I I uh kind of like I said, I think I I've almost answered that. But having you go through that process for me validates it. And yes, thank you. It's what else are you eating?

Julie Ryan:

That's crunchy. Are you eating crackers? Are you eating No, just the corn chips? Yeah, pretty much.

Rose:

Yeah, not really. I just kind of eat the corn chips.

Julie Ryan:

The corn chips. So they're absorbing like sugar.

Rose:

Yes.

Julie Ryan:

They're refined. Yeah. And then they're with they're fried in some kind of seed oil, which is causing inflammation. Yeah. And so you're getting the your pancreases getting the brunt of it.

Rose:

The other the other thing I was thinking about is dairy. Not sure if that showed up on your radar.

Julie Ryan:

Dairy, as long as it's full fat, is okay.

Rose:

Yeah.

Julie Ryan:

But it's the corn chips.

Rose:

Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. Oh well. Gotta get rid of that vice now. Or just change it.

Julie Ryan:

But then you just change them to something that's right in the healthy oil. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Wow. And organic. Because corn has a lot of pesticides in it, a lot of a lot of round up. Yeah. Well, not only that, but it's got, you know, kinds of bad stuff on it, unless it's organic.

Rose:

Yeah. That's true. Well, I will let you know. Yes, please do. You're fine. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Julie Ryan:

You're fine. It's not it's not malignant. Cool. Thank you. If it was malignant, it would look dark.

Rose:

Yeah.

Julie Ryan:

Yeah.

Rose:

Yeah. I actually have done some self-healing to do with myself to redu but to try to reduce it as well. So, you know, just gotta keep work doing the work.

Julie Ryan:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, and once you stop irritating it and inflaming it, the body has a tremendous capacity to heal. It can heal everything and anything. So once we get out of the way, then the body can not have to battle all the bad stuff that we're eating and spend its energy on healing whatever needs to be healed. Yeah.

Rose:

Do you ever, when you're ever scanning somebody, do you ever associate emotions with certain parts of the body? Because I know from a traditional Chinese medicine standpoint, the pancreas and the stomach, there are

Julie Ryan:

more like w the worrying and and and that emotion and you know I guess having young children they're 21 and you know navigating life that and as a mom you know you're always worrying so having the stomach issues are probably part of that that journey as well yeah emotion is an absolute component in any kind of medical symptom and there's always an emotional component that causes an energy leak that precedes any kind of medical symptom so the way that I perceive the body setup is I went through 12 years of Catholic school Srose I was taught the spirit or the soul is someplace in the chest area and the body's around it. That's not what I perceive they had it wrong. The spirit is the main part of us the body's inside the spirit and it's all contained in what I call the energy field membrane. And that's the container that holds the energy that makes up our body and our spirit it reminds me of really thin stretchy saran wrap. Think of it as a plastic bag that expands and contracts depending on what we've got going on at any given moment. When there's a tear or a hole in that energy field membrane, the body's leaking power it's always in place 100% of the time before any kind of disease or illness takes root. So as part of a healing what I'll do is go into that tear or hole and I'll be shown a scene either from this life or a past life. If it's this lifetime I may say okay Rose 1992 where were you what was going on was there anything emotional happening did you move? Did somebody die? Was you know what happened? And I would say 99% of the time my clients know right off the bat. If they can't think of anything I can go in and I can see a scene of what's going on and I'll say okay you're in a a red forward fair lane and you were in an accident and you were T-boned and a they'll say oh my God I forgot about that. Yes, that happened. If it's a past life we'll get where it was when it was a little bit about what happened and then we'll correlate it with what's going on in their current life because they will have brought in an energy block from a past life and they're still exploring it in this lifetime. Once we illuminate it eradicates that energy block the initial I'm going for where did that energy block begin? Not the most dramatic thing that's ever happened to you. The energy filled membrane heals the body goes back to working on full power helps the body regain and maintain health it's the most important part of a healing because we can fix body parts all day long but if you're leaking power what's the point this is amazing.

Rose:

So you teach people how to do this.

Julie Ryan:

I do my gosh and people can do this usually within an hour or two of the class.

Rose:

Incredible yeah I'm definitely going to be in your class one day. All right so I did read your book Angelic Ancestors right attendance sorry I'm sorry and um you talk about a lot about your mom and how during the time she transitioned and how you saw all her attendants arrive. Please talk about this and also how it you've called it the 12 phases of transition.

Julie Ryan:

It's fascinating and I want you to share with the listeners please well as you mentioned the first time I saw this was when my mom was dying in 2002. And I'd been studying woo woo for about 10 years at that point and but I'd never been around anybody dying before that was the first time. And so I felt like the Lady of Justice scales, you know, on one side of the equation my heart was breaking because my mom was dying on the other side I was seeing all this glorious stuff in the spirit world wow this is going to be interesting. So everybody goes through what I call the 12 phases of transition regardless of if they die instantly like in the case of a homicide or suicide or if they die over a prolonged period of time days, weeks months even years because time doesn't exist in the spirit world time's a human creation. So what happens to all of us is our spirit exits through the top of our head and holds on to the body in a speech bubble configuration like in a cartoon you know the characters thoughts or words that they're saying and then they're surrounded by angels and the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets interestingly enough university based research now shows that 90% of people at the end of their lives see the spirits of deceased loved ones and pets as they're transitioning. 90% rose so don't you love it when science catches up with woo-woo because woo woo is that around a whole lot longer. The spirit is hanging on to the top of the head the first spirit to show up is the maternal spirit closest to the person who's dying when I'm dying my mother will be there. If my mother had still been alive it would be my maternal grandmother if she was still alive it would be her mother always on the maternal line. Now that surprised me because I thought God probably has the death dispatch department where he dispatches angels or something. You know but it really surprised me that the spirit that really runs the show from the spirit world calls in the angels and the other spirits is the maternal one. And we think we're done with our kids when they're grown and gone and we're not we're still working with them from beyond the grave. Yes. So the second spirit to come in is the paternal spirit closest to the person who's dying my dad's deceased it would be my father if he was still alive it would be my maternal grandfather goes on the maternal line still and then the maternal spirit calls in the angels and these are big old angels as I perceive them rose they have big wings white gown rope belt barefoot is that what angels really look like to a Catholic schoolgirl that's what they look like because that's what I was taught they look like similar to the statuary and the artwork. To somebody growing up in an indigenous culture in the middle of the Amazon it may be a blob of purple fog or something. Spirit's always going to appear to us in a way that we can recognize who they are or at least spirit will show up if I'm working with a family and I'll say okay there's an older woman she's got on a button up the front sweater it's got pearl button she's got white hair or hair is in a bun in the back of her head and they'll say that's grandma Annie and I'll say okay because I they'll show up in a way that I can describe to you know my client who they are so that's kind of fun. The person is getting closer to death that's that circle opens up into a horseshoe and then eventually a straight line let's say for conversation's sake across the foot of a bed let's say a dying person's in a bed when they're dying. Again this all transpires instantly you know for people who die instantly or it can take long periods of time spirits of deceased loved ones show up in multitudes like thousands and thousands of them so many of them that they look like dots on the horizon. Pet spirits show up with my mother I was like oh my God these dogs we had when we were kids their spirits were in the room I was seeing people who'd been dead for 25 years that I haven't thought of since they died and their spirits were in the room. And then the people from all of our lifetimes in different period dress, you know, Renaissance, cavemen, twiggies, go-go boots and mini skirts all over and it's fascinating to see that couple of nuances that take place during the 12 phases of transition about phase five there are two additional angels that show up on either side of the spirit bubble and about phase between phase nine and 10 rows their wings start to move and they reminded me the first time I saw it with my mother they reminded me of a giant owl you know you watch it their wings they're silent they're powerful you can almost feel the drag that they're creating. Well the angel's wings on either side of my mother's spirit bubble as they were moving they were creating a vortex above her head. And I thought well that's going to be interesting because I've heard near death experiencers talk about going through a tunnel or a vortex. And I thought this is going to help her spirit evacuate from her body. And that is exactly what happened the spirit goes up through the vortex. The vortex has an upward pull it reminded me of a car wash when you go to the end and they turn on the dryer and it's sucking all the water off your car. That's what it reminded me of. So then the angels that are on either side of the spirit bubble escort that spirit to heaven heaven looks like a big white yellowish brilliant plasma wall to me and they go through the plasma wall and it immediately shuts, immediately closes. I've never seen Saint Peter at the heavy pearly gates in heaven with a clipboard going, okay, yeah you can come in no you have to go burn for eternity because everybody goes to heaven all dogs go to heaven all people go to heaven. So a couple of other interesting points when I was writing angelic attendance I was led to look up angel or um owl wings vortex. Come to find out there's this aeronautical engineering phenomenon that occurs on everything that flies whether it be a jet a plane a bird a bug a kite it's how the air goes over and underneath the wing and it creates a vortex underneath the wing and it causes left. If you do an internet search on wingtip vortex you will see thousands of aeronautical engineering drawings, pictures, articles. Every pilot knows all about the wingtip vortex. And I thought whoa this is a phenomenon I was watching in the spirit world the movement of these angel wings that was creating this vortex that I could see feel here above my mother's head and I thought holy Moses you know that's pretty amazing. So that was point number one. Point number two is you know this at the end of every Catholic funeral they say that prayer in paradisal it's either sad or song. It's part of the ritual when you translate in paradisum from Latin to English it means into paradise talks about how the angels and your loved ones will greet you and lead you into paradise. And at my mom's funeral I thought I've heard that prayer so many times in my life but I have a totally new understanding of it now because that's what I saw happen with the 12 phases of transition was I saw the angels and the loved ones greet my mother and lead her into paradise. And now I've seen it thousands and thousands of times since and it's amazing. Wow when I was writing Angelic attendance I thought where did that prayer originate? And I learned that it began as a fifth century Gregorian chant. And I thought well maybe it took till the fifth century till somebody was learned enough that they could read and write and certainly some of the most well educated people back then were men and they were living in monasteries and synagogues. They were the scribes so I picture some little monk sitting there writing out this prayer and it's something that people had seen from the beginning of time. And as we've become more well educated and proof based we lost sight of that's an incredible story.

Rose:

I encourage everyone to to pick up your book and read it you know you say you've seen it thousands of times. Now in your book you you talk about how you help people who have people who have passed they come to you and they ask you like you know who was there how was their passing and this is how you're able to also help others so not just from your mother but the thousands of other people that come to you and say can you see so you're able to go back and see their passing.

Julie Ryan:

Yeah because time doesn't exist in a spirit world so we can go forward we can go backwards it doesn't matter it's like an instant replay when somebody makes a touchdown in a football game and they'll do the instant replay so you can see it again. Anybody that wants a copy of Angelic attendance just go to julyriangift.com we'll send you a free copy digital and audio book and we've got it in Spanish too there and inside our diagrams of what the different phases look like furthermore if you have somebody who's at the end of their life and you want to know about this you can go to my website askjulyrion.com and go to the 12 phases of transition page there's a chart that you can download for free and it has all the different illustrations of the 12 phases download it save it on your phone and then just when your loved one is you know at the end of their lives just say hey what phase is my grandmother in and you'll hear a number in your head and then refer to the chart. And then you can it can really help. It helps so many families. So I think this stuff should be taught in the schools which is why I give away thousands of copies of it every year because it just helps so many people get through it with a loved one. And let's face it, we're all going to be there so we're all thinking about our own mortality when we're watching a loved one pass.

Rose:

Oh I think about it every night it's crazy. But after reading your book I find so much more comfort in knowing that you know they're all going to show up and my my dog as well who passed I always tell tell him one of these days, you know, I'll see you. Maybe not now but um yeah I'm gonna put everything in the show notes and thank you for that offer. And I do have also have that I downloaded that chart myself, but now I I know how to utilize it.

Julie Ryan:

Well and if if you're getting that your loved one is going through like phase five, six seven eight in rapid succession, then you know to bring the family in because they're moving pretty quickly because people take time off work. Sometimes they have to travel a long way to be with their loved ones at the end of their lives. And people have found it to be really helpful. And I think it helps us live our lives more joyfully too because if the worst thing that can happen is you're escorted to heaven by angels and you're reunited with all of your deceased loved ones and pets, if that's the worst thing that can happen, okay, bring it on. We all decide where we go when we go, who's with us or not when we go and that's a really important point to remember too because so many people feel guilty if they're not with their loved one when they pass. Well if you're not there they didn't want you there. Not because they didn't love you but because for whatever reason they didn't they didn't want you to you know be extra worried. They but there are a million reasons. And every healthcare provider that's worked in critical care or hospice will tell you that every funeral director will tell you that they have tons of stories from families who say yeah we were all with grandma and then we left to go get dinner and she checked out while we were while we were gone well she didn't want you there. You thought it might be too hard for you or whatever. How do you answer skeptics who find energetic healing or mediumship hard to accept I'm sure you've run across a couple of those in your many years of doing your work I have much fewer than I anticipated frankly people say well you got to convince me and I'll say well really I don't if you want to talk about it fine. If you want to talk about football or the weather or where you went on your trip I'm happy to talk to you about whatever you want. And then they'll say no no I want to talk to you I want I want to know what you have to say. I was like all right and then they'll say well I just think if you're talking to spirits it's it's got to be evil. It's got to be coming from the devil. And I'll say well all spirits are pure love first of all and the personality of the person stays with the body when somebody dies so if your mother was awful and she's the last person you want bedside when you're dying remember that was the role she was playing in that lifetime in which you knew her spirit is pure love. So when somebody says well I I just think that it's wrong it's evil if you're talking to spirit and I'll say well okay do you pray and they'll say yeah of course I pray and I'll say well do you get your prayers answered they'll say yeah all the time I'll say all right so who to whom are you praying? They'll say Jesus or whomever I say great so when you're talking to Jesus in your prayers is Jesus actually sitting next to you on the couch and you can feel him and touch him. He's in his body and you're talking to him they said well no of course not and I said you're talking to Jesus's spirit you can just see the light bulbs going off in their heads and I'll say that's exactly what we're all doing. You're communicating with Jesus's spirit spirit's communicating with you all the time it's whether or not you choose to communicate back it's whether or not you choose to listen so that just knocks it out. Yeah well the veil the veil is so thin stories. Yeah you share a lot of the stories too in your book and I do and also you have blog posts on your on your website too we also someone shift gears just a little bit and then we're we're gonna wrap it up you also you've also said that we all have well we all have spirit guides yeah uh and and some people may know that they have guides and then they may know that there's one or two that that's active but how can we connect with the other five or six or seven do we just say hey can you show up you know or or or raise our vibration and say um I don't know come out come come out from behind the curtain yeah they all look like when spirit guides first show up to me Rose they look like a version of Father Time old man long white hair white beard white gown yeah think of Dumbledore in the Harry Potter movies or Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings movies and then some are tall and thin some are more portly and stout and all of that and then once we focus on each individual one then they morph into what they look like in the lifetime that pertains the most to what they're advising us about in this lifetime.

Rose:

Okay.

Julie Ryan:

A follow us they as I perceive them they're kind of in a semicircle and they've they're around us all the time seven is the number in the Bible for spiritual perfection three is divine perfection seven is spiritual perfection which I think is interesting. So we'll just say hey spirit guides what are your names and then you'll hear them in your head then we'll say okay Stanley you know focus on Stanley Stanley's morphine into what he looked like in the lifetime that he lived that pertains to what we're going through at any given moment. And Stanley was a professor at Oxford in English and he is advising you on quantum physics for another one it was funny because I have a client who's a CEO of a Fortune 500 company publicly traded and we were talking about his spirit guides one time and he had he had some big time spirit guides like Benjamin Franklin and Abraham Lincoln and Sam Walton and Mary Kay Ash, the gal that founded Mary Kay Cosmetics and he said to me who and I said you know the pink Cadillacs you remember the pink Cadillac ladies he goes vaguely and he said why would she be one of my spirit guys I said are you kidding she amassed one of the largest independent sales forces ever with a bunch of housewives and moms who were stay at home and she got them to go out and sell beauty products to their friends and family and made cabillions off of it. Yeah an empire huge empire I said, talk about a saleswoman. Yeah. And he said, Oh, I'm gonna have to look her up. And so, yeah, it's really interesting who ends up. And they're not always famous, you know, they can be like my main spirit guide is a dead pope, Pope Clement the Sixth. And he showed up one time when I was with my mentor. She was doing a healing on me. And when I'm laying on a massage table, my deceased loved one's spirits line both sides of the table and they're participating in the healing. Well, one day this dead pope shows up with the Pope hat and the staff and the you know all that jazz. And I said, Shepherds were on. And he's holding on to it. And I said, Well, who are you? And he said, I'm Clement. And I said, I'm so sorry I never heard of a Pope Clement. And he started laughing and he said, Well, I was number six. And I said, Okay, how may I help you? My mentor Susan could see him too. And he said, Well, you're supposed to teach the world what happens when somebody dies. And I said, I'm not doing that. I'm a businesswoman. People will think I'm nuts. And he said, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, It's been so bastardized throughout the ages, and people are so afraid, and you know what happens, and so you just need to go teach the world about this. And I said, Again, thank you so much, but I'm not interested. And he said, No, look, everything that you've done in your life has prepared you for this. So just get on with it. I said, Thanks so much for stopping by. No, thanks. I'm not interested. So a few minutes later, I left and I'm in the car rose, and I just looked up on my phone, Pope Clement VI. Well, come to find out this guy was in office during the Black Plague, and he's best known for his purse for the dying and his purse for the dead. And I thought, all right, you can't make that up. And then it was a few years until I really got my next big nudge. And that was when I was at church sitting in between my husband and my son. And from the pulpit, the priest on Sunday morning said, wouldn't it be nice if somebody could really tell us if the angels and our loved ones greet us and escort us into paradise? And I'm getting elbowed from my husband and my son. And I thought, God, really from the pulpit on Sunday morning, you're giving me grief about this? Really? And that's when I took the leap. Because I thought, this is gonna hurt my businesses. May I tell one other quick story about that? Absolutely. I love your stories. I get ready, we launch askjulyrion.com. I'm lecturing to a conference of C-suite executives in Austin, Texas. And I give my talk, mostly men in the audience. I give my talk. Afterwards, this guy comes up to me. He's got his iPad open to askJulyRyan.com with my picture on it. I'm thinking, here we go. I'm just gonna get pummeled. And he said, Is this you? And I'm like, Yeah, that's my picture. And he said, uh, I'm really interested in hearing more about this. Can we sit together at lunch? I said, sure. And I thought, oh, this will be a nightmare, talking to this guy at lunch about it. Anyways, I go sit down, sit down. There's a table of eight. It's seven men and me. They didn't want to talk about the conference. They didn't want to talk about what my talk was about. They only wanted to know about woo-woo. And I thought, all right, all right, God, all right. And that's when I went full steam ahead.

Rose:

I love that.

Julie Ryan:

That was your big validation. That was my big validation.

Rose:

Yeah, that's a great story.

Julie Ryan:

These guys were not the normal guys that I would imagine would be wanting to spend the whole lunch hour talking about woo-woo.

Rose:

Well, I am I'm glad that more men are interested in woo-woo and that science is catching up and that you are doing what you're doing because you're doing amazing work. And I'm so grateful that you and I connected. And last question, what's on the horizon for Julie Ryan? What else you got going on, Julie? Phone app coming.

Julie Ryan:

Ooh. So that's exciting. And we're gonna do this thing called Spirit Chat off of the phone app with I just picked out the music a couple of weeks ago for Spirit Chat. And you'll be able to do a one-minute video on your phone and submit it for Spirit Chat, and then I'll answer the question on the app. And so that'll be fun. It'll have a lot of content that you can't get anywhere else on the phone app. We hope to have that out in the next month or so. I love that. And uh, book number eight is coming out. It's called Angel Messages for Your Life's Journey, volume two. And it's all kinds of spiritual occurrences, whether they involve angels or signs from loved ones or other miraculous, serendipitous things. And they're all stories from my graduates. And they put those in. And then the proceeds from the book go towards funding a scholarship for angelic attendant training. So somebody will announce the scholarship in a couple of weeks on my show, and it'll be all expenses paid to Atlanta, including tuition and your airfare and your hotel and all your meals. Oh, that's beautiful.

Rose:

I love I love that you're giving back like that. That's fabulous. And I'm gonna have everything in the show notes. And you know, your Ask Julie show is is not only uh it's audio, but it's also uh a YouTube. So they can go there live and and and check that out. All the information on on your uh website that is just full of information. And I I cannot thank you enough for being here. Um Amy, I'm so I was so excited to interview you, and um I'm so glad that we were able to do this and and thank you for your energy and everything that you do. My honor. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for scanning me too. Yeah, you're good. You're good.

Julie Ryan:

That's amazing.

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