Healing the Witch Wound & Awakening Your Intuitive Gifts with Emma Griffin

What if the fear you feel about stepping into your power isn't yours — but something you've inherited, carried quietly in your DNA for centuries?

In this Summer Solstice episode of Chat Off The Mat, Rose Wippich sits down with internationally recognized witch, intuitive channeler, and bestselling author Emma Griffin for an unforgettable conversation on healing the witch wound, awakening intuitive gifts, and reclaiming your most sovereign, magical self.

In this episode, Emma and Rose explore:

🌙 What the witch wound actually is — and how it shows up in modern women as self-doubt, hiding our gifts, and fearing the loss of female friendships when we step into our magic

🌙 Why healing the witch wound begins with sisterhood, not solitude

🌙 Living by the Wheel of the Year and aligning with nature's seasonal cycles

🌙 The one simple daily ritual (it starts with a cup of tea) that reconnects you to your magic

🌙 The story behind Emma's beloved Witch School and how women across the world are coming home to themselves through her work

🌙 Why intuition is the highest form of guidance — and how to learn to trust it

Why this episode is personal for Rose:

Emma has been a guide in Rose's own journey. In a soul guidance session, Emma named a witch wound Rose hadn't yet seen — one around being visible. Shortly after, Rose lost her voice. Literally. The parallel between Emma's insight and Rose's lived reality became impossible to ignore. That moment of recognition is woven throughout this conversation.

About Emma Griffin:

Emma is an eclectic modern witch, intuitive channeler, and bestselling author. Raised in Cornwall, England, in a family of witches and mediums, she has spent more than 28 years devoted to the craft. She is the author of Find Your Soul Path and The Witch's Way Home: Magic, Spells, and Rituals to Lead You Back to Your Most Powerful Self, and the creator of The Witch's Way Home Oracle Deck. Her work has been featured on the BBC, Talk TV, Heart FM, in The Mirror and The Guardian, and on stages across the UK.

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Transcript

Introduction

Rose 0:00

What if the fear you feel about stepping into your power isn't yours? What if it's been living in your DNA for centuries? I'm releasing this episode around the summer solstice, one of the most potent notches on the wheel of the year, a time of full light, full visibility, and the height of our own embodied power. It felt like exactly the right moment to share this conversation. Emma Griffin is an eclectic modern witch, intuitive channeler and author who was raised in a family of witches and mediums in Cornwall, England. With 28 years of witchcraft experience, she's become globally recognized for her understanding of seasonal living, her intuitive gifts, and her mission to help women transcend doubt, fear, and self-sabotage. She's the author of Find Your Soul Path and The Witch's Way Home: magic, spells, and rituals to lead you back to your most powerful self. And her newest offering, the Witch's Way Home Oracle Deck, is already a phenomenon. She's been featured on the BBC, Talk TV, Heart FM, and in The Mirror and the Guardian, and also on many festival stages across the UK. In this conversation, Emma reveals what the Witch's Wound actually is, an inherited fear carried in our DNA that keeps so many women playing small. And why healing it starts with sisterhood, not solitude. We talk about living by the wheel of the year and the one simple ritual, it starts with a cup of tea, that can completely shift how connected you feel to your own magic. But here's what I want to know want you to know before we begin. Emma's credentials are extraordinary, but they're not what makes her unforgettable. It's her energy. The moment she speaks, you feel her. Her words don't come from a resume, they come from her spirit. From the part of her that has chosen to show up authentically, not just for herself, but for every woman who has stepped away from her own embodied witch, including me. I've come to know Emma not only through this conversation, but through a personal soul guidance session she did for me. One where she gently named something I had been quietly turning over inside myself, and then named something I hadn't yet seen, a witch wound around being visible, and I didn't fully understand the weight of what she said in that moment. It wasn't until shortly after when I lost my voice, literally lost my voice, that I was forced to sit still and listen. Her insights had paralleled my reality with a position I couldn't ignore. That is the Emma you're about to meet, the one who sees you, the one whose presence invites you to come home to yourself. Welcome to Chat Off The Mat, a space where we talk about energy, sovereignty, and what it really means to live as a woman fully awake to her own power. I am so honored to share this conversation with the extraordinary Emma Griffin. Welcome, Emma. I'm so excited that you're here today.

Emma 3:16

Thank you. It's been an absolute honor to be asked to attend this.

Growing Up In A Witch Family

Emma 3:20

So thank you.

Rose 3:20

Thank you. So you were raised in a family of witches and mediums. And I'd like to ask you, what was it like growing up with this magic as your birthright? And also, how long did it take you to connect with that energy as well?

Emma 3:35

That's a lovely question. I actually didn't know it was uh anywhere different. I thought everyone's family were like-minded. So I never thought my mum was magical until I was a teenager. But my mum used to make me little like uh fairy books, and they'd be miniature tiny books and she'd leave wishes in them, and they were like leather bound, they're tiny, and she'd leave them on my pillow. So I, you know, believed in fairies and magic and make-believe worlds, and they didn't have much money, so everything was made for us, or we used for in our imagination, so everything was fantasy, and so I was very blessed in that way. And my dad did towards more like when I was in my late teens to twenties, my dad just stood up one day and started doing platform mediumship in a spiritualist church, and I was blown away, and yeah, it was amazing, and it was amazing watching him just receive messages, deep in his confidence and just sharing them. And you know, my mum, my mum was a practicing witch, very different to how I am today, but she was a practicing witch, and we would have seances after a Sunday dinner, we would do Ouija boards. She was a tarot reader, she's very well known with her own deck, so it's called the Hesychost Tarot, that was her deck, and she always had people coming around for readings, and I just thought this was completely normal until I met my husband when I was 17 and met his parents and sort of learned more about their life. I thought, okay, there's something, something different with mine.

Rose 5:16

Wow, you are you were very blessed. And if anybody Oh, I I I can imagine how how magical your life was as a Harry Potter. Yeah. I mean, who wouldn't want that? And then to uh do platform reading. And if anybody doesn't know what that is, it's just you stand up in front of a crowd and you start to get impressions. Yeah. I love that your father also embraced his his uh how do they say this, his skills, right? His his own personal abilities and wasn't afraid to to not show them.

Emma 5:50

Yeah, well, he traveled the world, he worked in the fashion industry, so he traveled the world and he loved different cultures and loved to go to temples and things like that. So he learned about meditation and spirituality, where my mum was more magic and witchcraft and the spirit world and manifesting. So my dad taught me how to meditate. So it was uh yeah, it's really cool. I love that. That's been wonderful.

The Modern Call To Witchcraft

Rose 6:18

So I noticed that a lot of there's a a lot more coming around about witches, witch wound, connecting with your witch. So this is a beautiful time to connect with that energy. And I think more and more people, women, are connecting with that calling to be a witch. How does someone feel that energy inside or that calling? How does how does that begin? How can they understand when they feel that need to connect with that energy and not be afraid of it?

Emma 6:51

Yeah, I I've seen with the women that I work with, there's a lot of fear around the word witch, still to today. Their fear of judgment that it's gonna be a bit too out there and they'll be mocked. And, you know, I do carry that with me day to day. But I think within them they are sort of like it sparked, especially when social media is now, you know, good and bad, but more and more witches around lockdown are started coming out online and sharing what they were doing. And I think it hit a nerve with lots of women and it made people sort of remember or made them sort of wake up or made them think, oh actually, I wanna I wanna do that. Something about me that I want to do that. I think it does come from our ancestors, but also, you know, we're not doing anything wrong. We're not, you know, we're working with nature, working with the world around us and within us. But I think it's the slower life that appeals to people. I think there's so much noise on social media. So when you see a witch do living their life, it can be quite simple, it can be quite elaborate, you know, each witch is different. But I think it's really been inspiring for women to see and to feel safe in that and to actually see, actually, no, this isn't scary. It's actually a lot slower, a lot more present, it's a lot, you know, connecting to nature. It's what's it's easier.

Rose 8:19

It's healing. Yeah. I I I love how you explain that. Yeah, I I've also felt that as well. I I feel that I've always had that energy. When I was a child, you know, I went to the library, remember so clearly that I came across a children's book and it had it was about witches. And I brought it home, but I hid it. And it was intriguing, and I was like, oh, this is so great. And that was the last time I did, but that was so, so long ago, and I'll never forget that, because I felt that there was something very powerful about that, very uh familiar about that energy of being a witch. And I've recently started to connect to more with that. Now you talk um in your witch's way home, which is I have all your things here. This is in your latest book, your latest book. I love your work. I'm a big fan. You talk extensively about healing the witch wounds, and I and I think this kind of relates to the conversation we were just having, you know, reconnecting with that energy. So maybe for listeners who don't know really the language around what that is, if you don't mind explaining what that is and how it shows up.

What The Witch Wound Means

Emma 9:25

Yeah, I I believe that the witch wind is in all of us, you know, men and women, because it's deep in our DNA. So everyone has a spiritual team of ancestors that we don't know of, or people that are like in our soul family that we've had past lives with, and it's massive. And there'd be somebody in there that has witnessed a woman or a man put to death and accused of witchcraft. So this fear ricotees down through us into our DNA now. So it shows up in women make more than men now in this day and age, because women are very scared of sharing their spiritual gifts. Women hold back what they really value and believe in of because they're afraid of standing out, being different, judged, or losing female friends and things like that. So it's really to do with a fear of being seen and that it feels not safe to believe in the woo-woo or stand in your power and burn to me in a cord, and that's you know, it could be too much for some people. You know, so I believe that we're all carrying it around now. And the only way to actually start to heal that is to attend women's circles, be around women, uplift women, don't judge other women, support and uplift and have a really strong sisterhood because that's where the magic is within all that wisdom. So yeah, it's like nothing else. So that's a a little step to actually try and heal that witch wound winner. Yeah.

Rose 10:57

And if you don't have that tribe, or if that tribe doesn't exist or that community, I tell women, create your own. Yeah. Call them in.

Emma 11:05

Call them in. Tell the universe, call them in and just yeah, or you can do it digitally. You know, we have this lovely, you know, system in our lives now that we can actually you put a call out on Instagram or TikTok or whatever and see who comes forward.

Trusting Intuition And Being Seen

Rose 11:20

And I know one of the things that you like to do is you you create a community, you have a witch school, which I'd like to talk about later as well. And also we can invite rituals into our lives very slowly to connect with. Well, one of I don't uh it wouldn't be a ritual, but our intuition or inner guidance is a really big part of ourselves and reconnecting to that as well. I know you talk about that. How important is it for a woman to trust her own inner authority and her own inner guidance and the whispers that she hears?

Emma 11:48

Yeah, I think that is the ultimate, really, is the most important thing. I mean, obviously I work with the spirit world and I do readings for people, and quite often people are desperate to hear from a loved one in the spirit world or their spirit guide or for guidance, for direction. But I really believe that the best guidance comes from our soul, from our intuition, because our soul knows where we've been and what we've done and what we've, you know, signed up to, but it also knows what we signed up to in this lifetime, so it knows where we're going. So that is the best form of guidance. But we have to allow time, you know, make time in our lives to practice and connect to our intuition. It's in the stillness, in the silence, and she's gentle. So we need to you know slow down and pause to actually make that connection. It's like a relationship.

Rose 12:40

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, you talk a lot about returning to the self.

Emma 12:45

And that is that. Yeah, that is that because everything society is pushing us to look elsewhere and outside of ourselves, where everything comes from within, all our answers. You know, we can reduce our stress, we can heal ourselves, everything comes from that present moment, and just listening to our soul and allowing her to guide us because you can never go wrong.

Rose 13:09

Yeah, absolutely. But it's very unfamiliar for women to do that.

Emma 13:13

Very unfamiliar. And then normally what the soul does is it puts you on a path or like nudges you gently onto a path which then makes you feel completely fearful, or then the judgment comes in and the limited beliefs and the self-doubts and stuff like that. But that's the path we need to go through to expand. And society's always showing us that when we actually get to that stage and we feel the fear, we need to stop. It's not safe. Go back into our whole dim your light, you know, when really we should be doing complete opposite.

Rose 13:46

Yes, I I totally agree. And also express ourselves. I you know, a lot of women don't find the comfort in expressing their authenticity, their desire, their voice. They hi they hide. Like you said, they don't make themselves visible.

Emma 14:02

Yeah, their clothes, their values, they just sort of like to mirror in, blend in, and just be the same as everyone else. Where really it's pretty cool to be, you know, our unique selves and show our unique gifts. It's amazing. We all are different, and that's why we should be.

Rose 14:20

And once you connect with that and you go through those those portals that of judgment and of of reconnecting, it gets so much easier. Yeah. And it and you and you ask yourself, Oh my gosh, why wasn't I like that all along?

Emma 14:33

Yeah, yeah. And I think we have to go through the fear because then we make our own evidence, and then we look back and go, actually, that wasn't that bad.

Rose 14:41

Right.

Emma 14:41

That was really good. So next time it's not gonna be as fearful.

Rose 14:46

Right. Exactly. People are gonna love you for who you are no matter what. Yeah, I think that you're the fear of judgment is is is big and losing the people in your lives, and but you know, I think when you live your life the way you need to live your life, I think people will eventually see that and be like, wow, look at her. She's amazing and she feels good and she's stepping into her power. There's nothing better than having that sovereignty.

Emma 15:13

Yeah. And the right people will be in your life. You know, if you lose people, then yes, it's painful, but celebrate it because they're not meant to be on your path.

The Cup Of Tea Ritual

Rose 15:26

Um, you often do rituals. I love your your Instagram, how you have your altar and you have your oracle deck. I know you recently released your oracle deck, which is absolutely lovely. And you have your rituals, you have your beautiful cauldron and things. What are some of the ways a woman can invite simple rituals into her life?

Emma 15:50

Yeah, I mean, I obviously have different altars all over the house and in the garden. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to have altars either. You know, just a simple, I think lots of people will say, I don't have the time. I don't have the time. I've got little, you know, three children, I'm really, really busy, you know, and I've been there, I've had children who were little, but everyone has a time to make a big cup of tea and light a candle. And while you're drinking that cup of tea, you can just put your hand on your heart and connect yourself. If you did that every single day and listened and just felt and be in that time, just while you're drinking that cup of tea, your life will change. Completely change. And then that might move on to maybe, okay, I'm gonna journal for 20 minutes or I'm gonna meditate, or you might then want to, well, from your journey, you might realize that you're holding on to things that you know longer serves you, so you might want to do a ritual of releasing. You know, that can be in a saucepan, it doesn't have to be in a cauldron. Right. Or it can be in a bowl of water, you don't have to always use fire. But you know, most of the rituals I do is releasing because I need to clear away more than I need to manifest, call it, and we need to like do a spring clean and make sure the energies are always moving. But most of the things you see on social media is all about manifesting and calling things in. But I think some of the things that people are manifesting, they might not even really want them. So in that stillness, in that lighting that candle having a cup of tea, that's where you can check in. Do I really want this? And why? Because we don't ask ourselves questions, we just sort of go. We never take a moment of pause and actually ask, Well, what do I want? You know, and I think that's so important.

Rose 17:38

That's self-reflection as well. Yeah. Yeah, I work a lot with I I when I teach, I'm always saying, What in your life do you need to release? And it's just really coming up a lot lately because I think we take on so much, not just from our current lifetime, but also I think from our past lives. Yeah. What we've brought in our you know, from our ancestors, our parents. Yeah. Yeah. And what we take on. And women are such nurturing individuals. We also take on everyone else's responsibilities and emotions. And we we help we hold so many people.

Emma 18:11

Yeah. So when sometimes you're manifesting, you're manifesting for your children or your partner or your sisters or your friends. You rarely manifest for yourself. You rarely think about yourself. You know, we normally, especially when we become mums, thinking of everybody else. So when I ask a mum, now what do you want? Not what you want for your kids or easy home life. What do you actually want? They can't, they can't think of it.

Rose 18:34

Right.

Emma 18:35

It's really hard.

Rose 18:37

Yeah. Yeah. That's why this work is important, this this self-recle reflection and returning to yourself and pausing.

Emma 18:43

That's the most important thing.

Rose 18:45

Yeah. Yeah, pausing and and connecting with that. Absolutely. Okay. So

Oracle Deck As Daily Companion

Rose 18:51

I mentioned your Oracle deck, A Witch's Way Home, and which is lovely. And it's it's yeah, I guess you could say it's a companion to your book. Yes. But it's a standalone tool. Yeah, yeah. But it goes quite nice with the book. Yeah, no, it's beautiful. And uh so how when you were creating this, how how do you envision a woman working with this tool? So this is, you know, we consider this a tool, a divination tool, a companion, a friend. How do you envision women working with this?

Emma 19:23

I envisioned, well, I really wanted a deck that I would use every day. So that's very important to me. But also a deck that I could give to my daughter, who's 26, and I wanted her to be able to use it in the same way. So I wanted I sort of visualized my the stillness that I've been talking about and having that daily practice, whether that's in the morning, the afternoon, or evening, it's entirely up to somebody. But as you just connecting to yourself, like I said, lighting the candle and feeling into things, maybe journaling and then shuffling that deck to see if you can get an extra layer of guidance that your intuition's already shown you. It normally will back it up. That's how I find it. So I also wanted to give a journal prompt on each card message so that then you could go even deeper with your journaling. So it's like a like a big sister holding your hand, giving you extra help. Some people say it's like having me in their back pocket. So I didn't know. Yeah, which is quite cute. When I read it, I I hear your voice.

Rose 20:29

Yes, which is very soothing and and and lovely and empowering as well at the same time.

Emma 20:35

And each message I channeled over an hour for each of those cards. So it was a very normal process. So yeah.

Rose 20:46

Yeah, so for anybody that doesn't realise what that is, you're you're if you want to explain like what it what that is, because you are a channeler and you've channeled these things.

Emma 20:54

Channel is my is my gift, it's what I use to read. So I connect to my whole spiritual team, which is many different dimensions of beings and loved ones and ancestors. We can have a whole podcast on that. But I make sure I take time each day to connect to them. And with each card, I sat in meditation and I sort of told them. I knew the uh title to like the little the word from the front of the card. So I'd say that to them, and then they would start speaking to me the guidance from that. So I'd literally have to open my eyes and just write down what I'm hearing and seeing. So that was over an hour for each card. Each card, it's lovely. And then who did the artwork? We found an illustrator on Instagram, he was absolutely perfect. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. My publisher kept sending me illustrators, and I was just wasn't didn't quite fit. And then they found me this lovely aroma, and she had a picture that she drew of a toad, and I was like, that's my illustrator, that's the one I want. And she was lovely. So obviously, I gave her mood boards of obviously you have like a Vision in your mind when you're sitting immersed into creating a deck, or like a book, as you know. But I gave her mood boards and then she wanted to put in my daughter, and then she added me and my husband and my son and my dog. So she's added those things into it. So yeah, it's a really lovely partnership. It was beautiful, it was incredible.

Rose 22:20

Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah, I encourage everyone to to check out the deck and it's make it part of your ritual as I do in the morning, and I pull my my cards and you know, even if they don't resonate immediately, just you know, put at some point throughout throughout the day. Yeah, I love that. And I

Fear Grief And Self Sabotage

Rose 22:38

know we were talking a lot about women and and working with women and the witch wound and connecting with that witch, but what are some of the common common blocks when you work with women that you see that women are facing, uh, whether it's doubt or fear, is it self-sabotage? I think I know we spoke a lot about that, but there is something that stands out.

Emma 22:59

Yeah, I think obviously I have all different ages, but I think the most thing is they're lost. They don't realize that women go through so many different chapters in our lives, and we just, like I said, plod on and just go through or it's mirrored as how we should be. And we never stop to actually give gratitude for the other versions that we've grown out of. So there's a lot of grief, especially when a woman, you know, becomes a mother, they grieve for their life they had before, but they don't want to say it because you know that's gonna be really sort of a shame, you know. So it's a lot of that that comes up, a lot of being lost, um, lack of purpose, and and really this feeling of like they've missed the boat. I mean, I've had someone in their twenties say that they to they're too old. I've had someone in their 70s, 50s, 40s, you know, and I'm like, you're all saying the same things. And it's almost like a band-aid of like, that's the reason why I can't go for something. And it's all the fear. All the fear. I think everyone across me is struggling with fear, and as soon as that fear comes up, they'll either procrastinate or they'll just stop.

Rose 24:11

Yeah. Wow. That's such a shame. It is a shame. It is there's c this constant fear and it holds you back from your from that purpose. It keeps you stuck. But it's a big one to work with, right?

Emma 24:25

Yeah, huge. And there's a lot of advice out there just to, you know, jump and you know, go through things. But if something is, you know, obviously lots of people are dealing with trauma. So if you have a level of fever, I think a lot of people bypass a lot of our emotions and stuff like that. So that's another thing in the stillness. I think we need to do some work on ourselves to understand who we are. Returning to home is actually finding out who we are, once we know that facing the fear is a lot more easier. Because then we don't bypass things, you know. Yeah, we understand why we feel like that or why it's triggering, and then we can make our nervous system feel safe and then go through that door of fear.

Rose 25:07

Yeah. Because you'll just carry it from stage of your life to one stage to the next. Keep coming up, keep coming up. Yeah.

Emma 25:16

The universe will keep giving it to you until you've learned your lesson.

Rose 25:19

And today there's there's women like yourself, and and there's tools out there to help people uncover what those innate fears are. Where like years ago, and you know, I was doing my spiritual work, that we didn't have this connection and and these tools. But luckily I was intuitively guided and found ways. But I feel that there's always uh something that we need to reflect on and work with. It's never never gonna go away entirely.

Emma 25:48

And I think we're always learning. Like somebody asked me the other day, oh, you must be really figured out now. You must be absolutely healed. Uh, could I just turn 50? And I thought I actually only now know who I am, and I pretty much like her, and I'm quite happy and everything about who I am, but I still have fear, I still have triggers, I'll still, you know, that's just how how we are. We're always learning.

Rose 26:12

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm glad that you said that when, you know, you just turned a certain age and you feel really comfortable and you know who you are. And I think as we get older, we do start to recognize and uh kind of like it does take a long time. Why does it have to take so long? I know. I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm in my you know early sixties, but it up until recently, I was like, oh my gosh, is it's like feel so much better. I feel like I've really fully stepped into more of my power and it just feels good. And I think that's why I'm I'm more able to connect with the witch side. And I've always been woo-woo, and I'm you know, I do all these things, but it's just so lovely. And connecting with other women also that are on this path is truly lovely too. Those women that are feel feeling really good about themselves.

Emma 27:01

There's there's nothing better when you see a woman helps us heal as well when we have lovely and meaningful conversations with other women, you know?

Rose 27:09

Yeah.

Emma 27:09

I love that.

Rose 27:10

It's it's such a beautiful community. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm really, really prepared. I just want to make sure.

Guidance Medicine Readings Explained

Rose 27:27

So you you mentioned that you offer guidance medicine readings, which I am gonna have one with you very shortly. Can you tell us about what that experience is like and how it differs from intuitive readings? Or is it this similar? I know you talked a little bit about that, but uh just tell us about what that is.

Emma 27:48

Well, it's taking me a long time to work out what it is myself, to be honest, but I've been talking to the dead since I was four. And obviously, with my parents, they never said it was wrong or different, so they kind of embraced it and helped me along. I have tried to stop, but that is part of me, and I've embraced it as I got into my 30s and 40s. I thought this is who I am. What I didn't realize was it's not just someone's loved one or a spirit that I can connect to. I go through different dimensions when I'm with someone. So basically, when you log on, I don't have any tools, you know, like some readers will have tarot or they'll have something, yeah, it's a tool. My mum had tarot. My tool is I will ask you where are you based? Have you found me? That is my trigger that I'm about to work. I would have meditated beforehand for about a good 20 minutes and called my team forward. When you start asking me questions, then your team and my team kind of like show me movies. And there is also in my book and in my oracle that there is a layer of we have different layers of dimensions around us. It's gonna sound weo. And almost up to the source or God, there is where we have our soul library, and that's what I call the council, which are light people who help us with our soul contracts, and they're the ones who told me what this was, and they said you should call it guidance mercenary days, and you need to advertise it and do it. So, whenever I'm told something like that, I always do it, which I was petrified. And this was 20 2019 when they told me to go live with that. So they will sometimes show me a sole contract, and there'd be like timeline markers will come up, and that will show me things that my clients may have missed, or key transitions in people's lives, or connections. They'll also show me sometimes past lives of that person, then their spirit guides might come in, animal guides might come in, and then yes, of course, maybe your nan might walk in and give me an apple pie or have some kind of connection as well. But I just basically, for that 30 minutes, just repeat everything I'm seeing and hearing.

Rose 30:10

Is a person able to ask you a question like, what do you envision my life's journey to be or direction? Or is it more like okay, so yeah. Anything.

Emma 30:20

Anything as long as it's a question. But it's like I can watch, I watched Mission Mission Impossible and Tom Cruise asked a question because I was in that nice state. I just have to bath and do relax. I started channeling for the character on them. So it's something that is very difficult for me to switch off. So I do respect it and I sort of look after it, but and music sometimes helps me as well. If my kids play certain kind of music, and we're having a family dinner, it will sp set me off and I would just channel. Yeah.

Rose 30:52

When you when you're in that meditative state, that kind of dreamlike and staring out the window type. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love that.

Emma 31:01

That's the best for me. So I hear and see a lot of stuff then. Yeah.

Rose 31:06

What a beautiful gift.

Emma 31:08

It is it is beautiful, yeah. And I believe we can all do it.

Rose 31:11

It's not something unique, it's just that I've practiced every day for that's important that you said that because everything is a practice, even a ritual is a practice. Everything.

Emma 31:24

Nothing like, oh, she's so special. It's not, it's just that I didn't know what I was doing. And it was only through I lost my parents a year from each other. And I think that trauma came up of like grief that the council showed themselves to me and told me this is what how I actually work. And I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. So I started sharing, which was terrifying because I thought everyone's just gonna think I'm schizophrenic or something. No, but but it is my most popular session, and I work with celebrities, film producers, you know, to normal, you know, normal people. Like me. Like me next next next month. And it helps people, you know, some people have it every month, you know. So yeah.

Rose 32:13

Well, it's healing and it's uh yeah, it's almost like you have that they there's like a a subtle awakening to to things that because when we're so close to things we may not see and we may not trust those messages ourselves, and it's it's nice for our and it's more than mediumship.

Emma 32:30

You know, if you go to a medium, you're just gonna get somebody saying, This person's passed with this, they saw you on a Tuesday. Right. You know, and it's like it's nice and it's comforting, but the council will show me things that have gone on in your mind, like things you thought about and disregarded that actually were downloads from your spiritual team that so you should look at them. Or because lots of people say, Well, how do you know that? Because that's in my mind. It's that's different. You know, then you may get confirmation from someone, you know, in the spirit world as well. But it's more directional and I don't I don't really tell people what to do. The medicine part is I give them tools. So you could do this, you could try this, you know, or that's well, you know, whatever they're showing me. But I always forget what I'm channeling, so straight after it's gone. So that's why I'm good with celebrities, because I don't know, remember.

Rose 33:26

You have that that client confidentiality yeah, because it's how they get wiped out. The board gets wiped clean. Well, you know, because the the it's the message that needs to be said and it channels through and it's gone. It's it's it goes to the right person and and its job. Wow. The last

Living By The Wheel Of Year

Rose 33:47

I wanted to talk to one more thing. Um the wheel of the year, uh I know it's important when we study or when we embrace uh being a witch, or even if you're not a witch. Even if you're not, yeah. Yeah. So the wheel of the year, I know I've learned to live by that more and more as I connect with it. It feels more familiar and white for me. Can you just I know it's extensive, but maybe just talk a little bit about what that is and how we can invite that into our lives.

Emma 34:16

Well, it's interesting, you said it feels familiar to you because that's how our ancestors would have actually lived. That's why it feels familiar to you. But I mean, I do live my life through the world of the year. So obviously, briefly, if you think about right now, this is being recorded end of February, where we're coming out of winter. Whereas, you know, we're coming being in its worst, and the days are getting longer in the UK, for instance, but we're slowly coming into spring. Now, what happens is the outside world, the muggles, the 3D world, as soon as they see the first of March, they're like, oh, it's spring, and we're all here, we're ready to go. We've still got a nice slow period because if you look outside, only a few things are starting to wake up. So we, you know, our ancestors didn't have the internet, they looked at nature, right? And we should actually mirror what nature's doing. So at the moment, outside for me in Cornwall, we have a few little signs. So that's now making me think, okay, what do I want to? It's like grab grabbing like a bag of seeds and thinking, what do I want to plant when it does come to spring, which is the 20th of March, you know, when we have a star, these spring equinauts. Then I might plant my seed, and then I'm going to start taking slow action to start getting this going. But that seed might not manifest till summer, when we're outside and everything we've got all the energy and we're blooming and everything, you know, great. And then we come into like harvest time, where that's a moment where you can reflex, reflect right back to probably spring, and reflect upon, you know, what's worked for me, what am I grateful for, what do I want to carry on for, for the next turning of the wheel. And then also, because we're now, obviously, that's end of October, September, then we're going into this Star Wayne, Halloween of connecting to our ancestors, giving thanks to our ancestors, working with the dead, and divination and our psychic abilities. And then we can then ask ourselves, what do I need to prepare for winter? Because winter is the cave. And that, you know, lots of people are terrified of it. I love the winter because you know, it is our rest reflection and receive time. So I do work with the world of the year like that, and that's how I sort of come out into the world or I'm more seen, sort of from spring to summer, and then you'll see if you follow me in winter, kind of like go back into hide and then come back out again.

Rose 36:58

Yeah.

Emma 36:59

Because, you know, women live with cycles. I don't think we can always be on the go all the time. And I, you know, even have the we're always in the spring, summer, autumn, winter. And we have that monthly. We have that weekly. And I think if we can have that in our lives and we have times of go, go, go, and then rest, you know, and it will help us so much. You wouldn't get burnt out.

Rose 37:25

Yeah, I I I totally agree that it it feels it it it's a cycle and that you should connect with the energy of that particular point on the wheel that you're in. Because if you go against it, there's this imbalance, this polarity, right? Like you said, winter and west, and right here where we are right now, there's still so much snow and it's cold. And you know, I'm I'm okay with that.

Emma 37:58

And then you think, well, the world outside is pretty dead right now. Everyone's really, you know, it's very cold. No one's doing anything like that. Nature is deep in rest. Surely that'd be better in a star or a beltane. Yeah. When the world is blooming and coming to life.

Rose 38:15

Yeah. And and all these parts of the wheel have all these beautiful rituals and connections to goddesses and it's it's just so lovely. I I know you talk also, I think in in your discover the magical life within, you also have a lot of the have all the rituals in the back of that, but all the rituals and and just some Yeah, and it's nice and and it one doesn't have to do them all. Find one that resonates with you. Maybe people like sewing and or I don't celebrate all of them, to be honest.

Emma 38:48

I do too, yeah. You know, there's some I like, some I don't. Some I can just, you know, sit and have a cup of tea and just think about it. Whereas some of them I want to make them beautiful, or some of them I want to share with my family.

Rose 38:58

Yeah.

Emma 38:59

You know, everyone's different. Everyone's different.

Rose 39:03

Yeah, it it's just a a a lovely, uh, a lovely practice. Yeah. Yeah.

Witch School Sisterhood And Closing

Rose 39:08

Yeah. So we'll wrap up, and I know I mentioned that you do you do have offerings, you have your uh guidance medicine readings, and you also have an a witch school, which I know it's in the process now or close. Can you talk about that? Because I I know I'm interested in that one.

Emma 39:25

Yeah, well, again, it was a download. You should do a witch school, and I thought I don't know where to start with that, I don't know how to do it. And then I asked my community on Instagram and they said yes. So I thought, okay, I'll do it. Like I, you know, I follow everything I'm guided to do. And I decided to keep it a closed group so that I really wanted a sisterhood in it, because that everything is about sisterhood for me. And so it started in October. I opened up a WhatsApp group for all the women to talk amongst themselves. And in the first couple of weeks, watching that and reading this connections from women all over the world, helping each other, sharing all their witchy beliefs and tools that they like, it is magical. It's been the most beautiful thing to do. So once a month I join, get them to come on to Zoom and I teach them a certain lesson, but it's more modern witchcraft to make it easy and to fit into daily life. And then they get to ask questions and they've got a sisterhood. So yeah, I'll be initiating them all in October.

Rose 40:29

Oh, isn't that lovely? And then you'll open up hopefully another and open up an Again. And then you you have all the books and and The Witch's Way Home is uh is more comprehensive. You have your soul path, and The Witch's Way Home really talks a lot about what we said in in more detail, uh even crystals and plant magic, which could be a whole other episode.

Emma 40:51

There's so yeah, there's so much talk about. I mean, if you're if this conversation is piquing your interest, then find your soul path is very gentle and just touches on things, and then you've got the lovely will of the year at the end. But if you're being called to be a witch, then the witch's way home is a great manual because it's just like a journey when you read through it, and you can use yourself at the end. I know it.

Rose 41:13

Yeah, you don't know it.

Emma 41:15

So I actually initiated myself when I became a witch, so oh, isn't that beautiful?

Rose 41:21

And you and and you have the audiobook, which I actually have used as well, and your voice is just so beautiful and soothing. Yeah, that it was just so lovely to listen to. So if you haven't figured out yet, I am a big fan of yours. And uh and you are working on another on another book, but you do have Substack. I'd like to mention as well, your writings are are lovely and you have Substack, and you are working on another fantasy type book.

Emma 41:49

Yeah, that's that's something that just came to me and it's like a true life story, part of my past life. So it's very different for me to write, but I'm absolutely loving it. It has no publisher around it, uh it's just a project that I want to do, and I have an idea for a book to follow both those other two books I've written as like a manual for the will of the year. So I have that as well.

Rose 42:15

Thank you. Is there anything else that you wanted to share that perhaps uh we didn't touch upon or no, no? It's lovely. Thank you. Well, thank you for sharing space with here and showing the world what it's like to experience being just a magical woman in in in today's world and connecting with others and creating that your community. So thank you, Emma, for being here. Thank you for asking me on this. If you're still here with us, take a breath. Let what Emma shared actually land. Because some conversations are meant to be listened to, and some are meant to be felt. This was one I felt long after we stopped recording. If something in this episode stirred a quiet recognition in you, a flicker of that's me, or I've been hiding that part of myself, don't rush past it. That flicker is the witch in you, waving. Maybe healing your own witch wound begins exactly the way Emma described, with a cup of tea, a hand on your heart, a moment of stillness in a world that wants you to keep moving. Or maybe it begins by sharing this episode with a woman you loved, a sister, a friend, a daughter. Because sisterhood, as Emma reminded us, is where the wound actually heals. To learn more about Emma, her books, her oracle deck, and her witch school, head to the show notes. Every link is there. And if her work moves you the way it has moved me, follow her, support her, and tell her you heard her here. As for me, I'm releasing this episode in the light of the summer solstice, a reminder that we are not meant to dim, we are meant to bloom. If you're new here, welcome. If you've been with me a while, thank you for staying as Chat Off the Mat continues to evolve into something more intimate, more honest, more aligned with where I'm being called. You can find me over on Substack and on YouTube at Rose Wippich, Empress Rising, where voice, visibility, and vitality are the three threads I'm weaving through everything I do. Until next time, trust your intuition, honor your magic, and wear your crown proudly.