Awaken Your Psychic Abilities: Expert Tips from Reiki Master and Author Lisa Campion

Join me for an illuminating conversation with Lisa Campion, a renowned Psychic Counselor and Reiki Master Teacher with over 35 years of experience. In this episode, Lisa reveals how everyone possesses natural intuitive abilities and provides practical guidance for developing these innate gifts.

Key Topics Covered:
- The fundamental difference between intuition and psychic abilities
- Why everyone has intuitive potential and how to develop it
- Gender differences in expressing and accepting intuitive gifts
- Practical exercises for developing psychic abilities
- Introduction to quantum healing and its relationship with traditional energy work
- Tips for maintaining energetic balance in daily life

Featured Expert:
Lisa Campion is an accomplished author, psychic counselor, and Reiki master teacher. She leads a year-long apprenticeship program for aspiring healers and has dedicated her career to helping individuals discover and develop their spiritual gifts.

Practical Takeaways:
- How to start a psychic journal
- Meditation techniques for developing intuition
- Methods for recognizing spiritual signs in everyday life
- Ways to balance energy work with daily responsibilities
- Understanding the connection between life purpose and intuitive gifts

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Chapters

• 0:00 Unlocking Psychic Intuition and Abilities
• 13:33 Enhancing Psychic Intuition Through Everyday Activities
• 18:12 Empathic Energy Management and Boundaries
• 29:47 Navigating Spirit Guides and Divination Tools
• 39:55 Psychic Awareness and Reiki Integration
• 47:53 The Future of Energy Healing

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Lisa Campion is the author of four number one best-selling books, including the Art of Psychic Reiki and Awakening your Psychic Ability. She is a psychic counselor and Reiki master teacher with over 35 years of experience. Lisa has been teaching Reiki for over 25 years and has trained thousands of people in Reiki and has done over 15,000 individual sessions. She's also the host of the radio show and podcast, the Miracle of Healing. She specializes in training emerging psychics, empaths and healers so that they can fully step into their gifts, since the world needs all the healers that it can get Ready to unlock your most vibrant, authentic self. Your journey to radiant wellness starts now. Welcome to Chat Off the Map. I'm your host, Rose Whippich, and I'm here to guide you on an extraordinary journey of feminine healing, energy, work and total well-being. Get ready to be inspired by authentic conversations with leading women practitioners, wellness experts and holistic healers who understand your unique journey. Subscribe to Chat Off the Mat, wherever you get your podcasts, and let's create magic together. Welcome, Lisa.

Speaker 2: 1:23

Oh, thanks, Rose. I'm so happy to be here with you today.

Speaker 1: 1:26

I'm excited that you're here. So you have so much experience and you've helped so many people connect with their intuitive abilities, their psychic abilities, become Reiki practitioners. So I thought it would be great just to dive right in, because I have so many questions for you, if that's okay.

Speaker 2: 1:44

Yeah, that's great, let's do it.

Speaker 1: 1:46

Great. So the first question I have is in your books you've written a few books you talk about intuition and psychic ability, and what I would like for you to do is just, in your words, explain the difference between the two.

Speaker 2: 1:59

Yeah, it's a really great distinction to make and it's, you know, not every psychic makes this distinction, but it's just sort of how I see it is that intuition is really our own inner knowing. You know, like it's what we know, we often experience it. It's kind of like coming from your higher self, you know, coming from or from your own inner wisdom. I think we can put it that way. We often experience it in our body. So what's going on? Your body is like one of your most powerful psychic senses. It always knows the truth, it always knows what's going on, you know, it's impossible to fool it. Then we have the feeling sense like, well, I have a good or bad feeling, you know. Or we have emotions that are associated with that too, like this feels icky or this feels really good. And then there's the inner knowing. I don't know why, no, I just know if you know anything about the chakras. Those are the first three chakras and those, I think, come together to create our intuition. And it's really meant as a communication tool, to so that your higher self, your soul self, can communicate directly with you. We all have it, every single person has it, whether we listen to it, whether we pay attention to it or not, I don't know, you know.

Speaker 2: 3:14

And then psychic's a little different. Psychic is when we get information from outside our system, from our spirit guides. Our spirit team and every person I've ever done a reading for has a group of non-physical beings that are helping us, because it's really hard to human on planet Earth and I don't, you know, we don't come down here without some backup, and that's who our spirit team is and they. We often get that through dreams, through. It's sort of often more the auditory, like there's a little voice in your head. That one of those voices isn't you talking to yourself, it's one of your spirit guides. Or through the visual sense you're sort of through the upper chakras, are a little bit more attuned to the psychic realms.

Speaker 1: 3:56

Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. And you know, for many years I really couldn't distinguish between what the two were as far as defining them, but I knew somewhat that my inner guidance was listening to my gut feeling or having this notion of something was going to happen, whether good or bad, and then also having those psychic connections that I get symbols or intuitive. What we say hits or impressions from whatever situation you're in. And I know that a lot of people say I'm not really intuitive, I'm not really psychic, but you say it and I believe it too, is that everyone is, everyone has these abilities to some extent, and one of the things you do is you help people to connect with or enhance certain abilities. Can you talk about that from the perspective of teaching people or how you help people connect with that?

Speaker 2: 4:49

Sure, yeah, I really believe that psychic ability is just an ability. That's why I called my book Awakening your Psychic Abilities. And then it's like musical ability or athletic ability Everybody has some for everybody. It just depends, I think, a lot on how much we have, depends a lot on our life purpose, what we're meant to do in the world. Healers always have a ton. If you're a yoga practitioner, a healer, Reiki person, you're going to be fully loaded with those because they're really useful in your life purpose. But I've also trained stockbrokers and lawyers and stay-at-home moms and politicians.

Speaker 2: 5:26

People you wouldn't quote expect to be interested in psychic, but really everyone has it. I think one of the biggest myths is that you are just born with it and you don't have to work it. You have what you have and there's no way to improve it. But just like musical ability or athletic ability, we don't expect that. We know that the pros we see, the professional athletes and professional musicians, just work like crazy. You know they practice, they take lessons and they refine their skills, and the same thing. That's the same thing with psychic ability. Like we all can do it if we are willing to work it.

Speaker 1: 6:01

Yeah, I agree with you. And do you find that women are more intuitive than men? I know you've worked with a lot of people and I've talked to mostly women are very upfront about being intuitive or psychic and men oftentimes won't, I guess, express that. Do you find that one gender or anyone is more intuitive than the other?

Speaker 2: 6:27

I don't actually. I think people are equally intuitive across the board. I think that there's more societal permission for women to talk about it and for women to be sort of tuning into their feelings. But I really don't think there's any gender difference there, more of our how we perceive ourselves, which I think a more significant difference, rose, is are you a feeling type person or are you an analytical person? And that has to like are you a left brain person or a right brain person? And I don't think that's a gender issue. I think it's. We're sort of equally divided across genders and the people that are identified as more analytical thinking, more of the left brain thinkers, struggle with us a bit more. Because it's when our, you know, a lot of the intuitive senses are about sort of relaxing the analytical part of your mind, of tuning into your feelings and your body and allowing sort of the psychic download to happen. And what happens with people who are highly analytical, logical, is the minute that happens their analytical brain kicks in and goes what's going on? What does that mean?

Speaker 1: 7:41

They try to make sense of it.

Speaker 2: 7:42

Yeah, we try and make sense of it, we start analyzing it, and as soon as we start analyzing it we shift into the other side of our brain and the download stops. So I think it has way more to do with your natural you know inclination of are you left brain or right brain, and I don't think that has anything to do with gender.

Speaker 1: 8:00

That's great. That's a great answer. Yeah, do you find some people maybe don't trust their intuition when something pops up, or maybe they don't understand what they're feeling. What are some of the obstacles that you find are people when, when you're working with people, this is one of the biggest barriers that people have.

Speaker 2: 8:22

So it's super, super, super common for people to not trust what they're getting. I think the really the two biggest ones are paying it. We don't pay attention. I used to get around and say when I write a book on psyche development, it's going to be called pay attention. Yeah, cause we have to pay attention, we have to notice, and I feel like there's sort of a conflict that goes on between our logical mind and our intuitive self, right? So a lot of times our intuitions come in and our logical minds dismiss them. You're making that up? Well, that's just common sense. Everybody knows that this happens even more to those logical left brain people we were talking about where they dismiss their own psychic stuff, as everybody knows that that's just common sense, you know, and really it's pretty, it's a pretty profound like experience. So I think we have to learn, first of all, how to sort of slow down and recognize and pay attention to the fact that that's happening.

Speaker 2: 9:19

And then I think we have to find and I teach some skills and techniques for people to learn how to trust, you know, and I think one of the best places to start is creating what I call the psychic journal. In fact I believe in it so much that I wrote a psychic journal. It's called the psychic awakening journal. But you can just, you know, get a 99 cent composition book that's what I did for years and write psychic journal on the top of it. And what you do is you start recording all of your dreams. If you pull divination cards, put your card pulls in there. If you get punches, nudges, first impressions because first impressions are a really great example of our intuition at work Signs and omens, you know, like all the things that happen, because they're so ephemeral and they're so constant and we tend we're not paying attention. So putting them in the journal helps us pay attention and what we pay attention to grows. So I guarantee, if you keep a psychic journal for about a month, you will be amazed how psychic you already are.

Speaker 1: 10:20

Yeah, I love that. And journaling is just fascinating or fantastic for any aspect dream journaling, and I think also you see patterns. Once you start writing them down, you're like wait a minute, I see these. I'm going to say cardinal, because everyone associates cardinals with spirit. I see, you know a certain crystal or a certain object all the time and that's your intuition, or can be your intuition.

Speaker 2: 10:44

Those are signs and omens, you know, and I think a lot of times what happens is we get an intuitive sense, or we get a message from our spirit guides. You get a message from from dead Uncle Fred who's going to send you cardinals, or from your angel who likes to drop feathers for you, or we get, we get kind of the, the psychic impression, and then, because we need a lot of proof as humans, our guides, when our higher self will dish up these signs, omens, synchronicities, so we have something to hold on to and believe in them. One of my friends lost her son when he was kind of a young man and she knew she was talking to him. She had a pretty direct spirit connection to him. But she needed proof because it was her son and he said I will send you heart-shaped rocks.

Speaker 2: 11:30

And literally everywhere she went she would find heart-shaped rocks. She could be walking down, you know, fifth Avenue in Manhattan and she find a heart-shaped rock on the ground. It's nuts. I've seen her do it a million times and yeah, and it was just. It was just because she was so brokenhearted that she needed that kind of confirmation that the conversation she was having with her son were real, and but I find that combination psychic hit, sign and omen to be a really great way for us to learn how to trust that what we're getting is real. Sometimes we need that outside validation or outside confirmation that it's real.

Speaker 1: 12:04

Yeah, and it's really healing and sometimes it's good not to ask for those signs and they show up. But I know people want to see signs, they want that validation, and we were talking about left brain, right brain, and I think there's a lot of distractions now too, a lot of social media, just a lot of noise in general. What are ways or what do you recommend and I know I've read your book so I know you know kind of get quiet and go find a space. Can you talk a little bit about either what you do or recommend ways a person can get in touch with that quiet side?

Speaker 2: 12:39

Yeah, we definitely need to make time to tune in because, like you said, everything's so busy and your guides, and I think this is why some people's only contact with their intuition is while they're sleeping and that comes through dreams because we're just too busy, we're not making space. So I think there's two ways you sit down and do meditation, like I do about a half an hour, and I do it in the morning and again before I go to bed and I start with kind of my energy management, energy clearing practices, which are super important for me ground clear, protect. I do a little journaling, I bring my uh divination cards, pull I pull some cards, I do some meditation. You know, just kind of quiet myself and see what shows up. So that's a really fantastic spiritual discipline. But I think that's sort of like going to the gym. We call that like athletic ability. That's like going to the gym and giving it a work, your your psychic muscle a workout.

Speaker 2: 13:33

But I think the other thing that's probably already happening to people and it's super fun to do this is to to do the alpha, alpha brainwave exercises.

Speaker 2: 13:43

So we are the most intuitive when we're in that alpha brainwave and that's sort of a light trance state and we all experience that when we're driving, when we're folding laundry, when we're in the shower.

Speaker 2: 13:54

People get the best psychic hits when they're in the shower, but we're just, you know, walking the dog, mowing the lawn. Those kinds of things Occupy since it's particularly good for the left brain analytical thinkers is you give your hands and your mind some menial, repetitive tasks to do. So how you do this is you ask yourself a question what do I do about so-and-so or what do I need to know right now? You can write it in your psychic journal to give it a little more punch and then go do one of those alpha activities Roll the grass, walk the dog, fold the laundry, take a shower and relax your mind. Stop thinking about it and we shift into that alpha state. Your brainwave shifts into the highly intuitive, problem-solving state and into your being will arise the answer to the question and then record the answer in your journal, and this is a really great way to fold psychic training into sort of everyday life.

Speaker 1: 14:47

Wow, I love that. I think the shower thing is happens to me a lot. I think it's because the water is also hitting on my crown.

Speaker 2: 14:54

Yeah, probably, and clear in the waters, clearing off your energy field too.

Speaker 1: 14:58

Yes, yeah, and I said Reiki when I take a shower. Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2: 15:03

I'm a bath person, so I have this exercise called the bathtub oracle, where you you know it's your journal. Before you get in the tubby, you write your question, you get in the tub and you just space out. You don't, don't be on your phone or reading your book, and the same kind of thing will happen. It's like the water clears you off and, um, into your, into your awareness will pop the answer to your question. So yeah, those are good things to do movement exercises too.

Speaker 1: 15:31

I know you've practiced um and studied martial arts and also qigong or qigong, yeah and dance.

Speaker 2: 15:39

I'm a dancer now, so these days I do all kinds of dance, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 15:43

So you say you're a dancer now. Yeah, you weren't a dancer before. Now you've embraced something different, right? Something new. Well, I have been a dancer.

Speaker 2: 15:50

for quite a long time Before the pandemic happened I was doing ballroom dancing and now I'm doing, you know, sort of more contemplative like ecstatic dance and things like that. But I think even in my martial arts days I was. You know martial arts, the flowy styles and Tai Chi and things are kind of close to dance.

Speaker 1: 16:07

Yeah, so I'm a Qigong instructor. I'm certified as a Qigong instructor and also yoga teacher and Reiki master. But I found that teaching yoga is great, I love it, but it wasn't doing for my body what I felt I needed like as far as movement and the sensation in my body. And I noticed that after practicing Qigong and learning more about Qigong for several years and the energy component of it, I am more of an open channel and I feel more in my body when I'm having either intuitive guidance or a psychic kit and also's really, and also it's helped me to stop drinking alcohol, which I've always wanted to, but that intention was so strong that it also helped, and Reiki has helped me to release any of that whole. Not that I was drinking like a lot, but enough where it wasn't good for me anymore that I felt.

Speaker 2: 17:00

Yeah, yeah, I think, like we raise our frequency to a certain level through all the things that you were doing, you know, meditation and Qigong and Reiki and all the all the good stuff, and then those sort of lower vibe things, to just don't work for us anymore, yeah, you know, and they kind of really bring down your vibe and it doesn't feel good.

Speaker 1: 17:20

As as people who are sensitive, or sensitives as you call them, empaths and healers, do you think that sometimes they're drawn to some of the lower vibe things as a way of grounding them? Like, maybe drinking was a way of grounding my energy, because I'm always like I don't know, maybe I'm just always up in the air at being an aquarium too, I'm like you know. You know food also can be something that people find that grounds them when their energy.

Speaker 2: 17:49

Maybe they don't understand it totally nothing will slam you back in your body faster than hamburger, a hamburger, cheeseburger and french fries and a milkshake.

Speaker 2: 17:59

Bam, you're back in your body, like like you know, it's true, and I think that oftentimes too, especially the empaths and sensitives will use some of those things to numb out. So there tends to be like a pull towards addictions to just sort of stop the oversensitivity, like if you're so sensitive and you don't know how to shut that down, you don't know how to protect yourself, you don't know how to shut down your feelings or, you know, block out other people's feelings. There can be a pull to sort of the, the heavy, you know ground foods and and and addictions to kind of just numb and shut. So a lot of that's something that a lot of sensitives have to deal with. And I think learning, I think smoking, is a fascinating one, because if you think about it, if you're a smoker, you go outside, you leave the group, you, you're outside in nature. Now, now, these days, you, you're probably alone. You take a deep breath and then you blow this sacred smoke from the sacred herb all the way through your energy field.

Speaker 1: 19:10

You know, you might as well just go outside and sage yourself.

Speaker 2: 19:11

Right, and I think I never looked at it that way. Yeah, when people learn how to clear their energy, sometimes they can really give up smoking.

Speaker 1: 19:17

And any of these other things. Yeah, I you know, talking about being sensitive, again also a lot of women or a lot of people. I say women because women are often told you're sensitive or don't overreact and they're. You know, it's part of who we are. It makes it like I know I'm very sensitive and I may overreact over certain things because I just feel nobody understands me. But once you find that this is who you are and your me. But once you find that this is who you are and your authentic self and you find these tools to help you maybe not smoking or drinking, but other better grounding techniques you feel better overall. You know you start to feel a shift or a transformation happen.

Speaker 2: 19:57

Yeah, it feels terrible to not be allowed to be yourself. It's exhausting and depressing and anxiety provoking to try and hide who we really are or to just try to hide that from ourselves and try to hide that from the world. And there's, I think, as we grow spiritually and we do our personal growth work which I've never been able to separate those two, by the way spiritual growth work puts us on the path of inner healing and, as we kind of, you know, surrender to that and and let the layers of healing happen, we just become more authentically who we are, we become more our higher self all the time and it just feels so much better to do that that we don't always need those heavy, that heavy fuel, you know, to kind of get us through the day. I also think there are many, many empathic men and I think there are as many empathic men as there are women, and they, they just have actually have a much more difficult time rather than we do.

Speaker 2: 20:56

So, for the same reasons I talked about. Like we, just as women, we get a little more leeway for being sensitive, and men have especially men of my generation had the like, real macho, like be macho, like you're crying, Let me give you some, let me give you something to cry about, this kind of like upbringing that we had. You know, I'm a Gen Xer, so I'm like we all have raised by wolves things, but that I think it's super hard and I'm I'm glad to see sort of a shift in the younger people I work with now have a lot more freedom in their, in their subculture for being sensitive.

Speaker 1: 21:33

I know you growing up you always been very intuitive, but you also had parents who supported that.

Speaker 2: 21:40

Yeah, for the most part. God bless my hippie parents, you know, and I would say, like they didn't know what to do, cause who knew what to do? I was born in the sixties Like nobody knew what to do, you know. And and they didn't drag me to church and throw holy water on me, you know like happens. They didn't put me in a mental hospital. They didn't, you know, do a lot of things that happen to people, that whose parents aren't so understanding. My mom, I remember my mom saying oh, it's just your imagination, like you have such a good imagination, and I was like I'm imagining it, you know, but I, it took me a while to kind of unpick that one, but it could have been a lot worse and they did do some amazing things. So when I was 10, they took me to transcendental meditation, because that's what you did and if you were a hippie in 1974, then Maharishi came around and I got to meet.

Speaker 2: 22:31

Maharishi gave me like, gave me like an initiation and I, you know, my parents were hardcore meditators. When I was in high school we did this. It used to be called civil mind control, Do you remember that? Now it's called the method. Yeah, I did like all seven levels of that when I was in high school and it was an incredibly powerful part of my psychic training. That's about the time I started studying martial arts too. So part of my childhood was extremely difficult growing up in a super haunted, creepy old Victorian house in New England. And there was this gift of grace too that were right when I thought I couldn't take it. Something amazing would happen and I would get sort of an extraordinary kind of spiritual training experience?

Speaker 1: 23:17

yeah, do empaths have a harder time maintaining relationships or people that are intuitive, and do we have a harder time either maintaining romantic relationships or even creating and maintaining friendships with other people?

Speaker 2: 23:32

It's such an interesting question. It's a great book. It's called Energy Healing for Empaths. It's a good little book. I do think yes and no like.

Speaker 2: 23:43

On some ways we have trouble maintaining relationships because we're often really introverted. We often like, prefer our cats and our plants I'm just talking about myself here, you know, like, give me the plants and the cats and our books, yeah, and sometimes we can become really relationship junkies, like codependent, you know, and unable to leave relationships we should leave. Maybe we don't know who we are outside of a relationship, so we tend to attract narcissists. So we can get into this like I call them energy vampires in the book, but really they're narcissists, and we can get into this very unhealthy sticky connection where we, until we learn how to manage our energy and our emotions, attract super, super, super needy people who of all kinds, who just want to suck the life out of us. And once we've had enough of that, it's back to just the cats and the plants. So I think we can kind of flip-flop between solitary and overstuffed with pretty dysfunctional relationships.

Speaker 1: 24:51

As empaths though I know empaths means we are feeling. What other person can be feeling? And you were saying about energy vampires. What are ways that people can protect their energy? When they sense that maybe the energy is being sucked out of them or it's constant? What can they do? What advice do you have for them?

Speaker 2: 25:13

Well, them, well it's really all about learning how to set boundaries and saying no, and I think we begin that by our energy management practices. So anyone that's an empath or a sensitive needs to have daily, hourly, as needed, you know, energy management. That means we ground, we stay in our body because that's hard for us. We clear the energy we picked up from other people because empaths are like sponges and we absorb all the emotions, thoughts, feelings, physical sensations of the people around us. So we need a way to clear that out of our. If we're a sponge, you need to squeeze the sponge right and we need protection.

Speaker 2: 25:51

Psychic protection, which I see as the outside edge of our energy field, needs to become less like a sponge and more like a solid barrier. So when that's the first thing I teach any of my students, whether they're psychic development students, reiki practitioners, empaths we need to learn how to have an energetic boundary that gives us a leg to stand on. So those ground, that ground, clear and protect process I do before I first thing, when I wake up, before I go to bed, in between clients, before I go into Walmart, halfway through Walmart, when I get out of Walmart and I can't find my car in the parking lot. You know like, like that. So we need that and that. Then we can do the harder job, which is learning how to speak our boundaries. Saying no to people is really hard for us, but we need to learn how to do that and use our discernment to what we're a yes and what we're a no to.

Speaker 1: 26:44

Yeah, I'm finally learning, after many years on this planet doing the work and being empathic, learning to say no. And damn, it feels so good when you say no.

Speaker 2: 26:55

It does feel so good.

Speaker 2: 26:57

My trick to that, rose, is that I, if people ask me to do something, I never commit in the moment, because in the moment I feel their pain or I feel how much they need it, or I feel how, how adorable they are, how much I like them and I want to help them, I'm like, oh, of course I'm going to say yeah, you know, and we're, we're so giving and generous hearted, as empaths, you know, we really care.

Speaker 2: 27:20

And so I've learned to say let me get back to you, I'll give you the answer tomorrow. And I have to kind of like, sit in my room alone with my calendar and do my ground clear, protect and like really think am I yes or no? Can I really do? This is the fit of my calendar, does it suit my objectives for this quarter, whatever you know. And then we have to find a lot of really, really, really nice ways to say no, so that we don't firm, but nice, so we don't hurt people's feelings. No, thank you. Oh, I'd so love to help you, but I'm just over committed right now. Or, you know, like all the things People understand.

Speaker 1: 27:55

Yes, right, because it may not be that you're doing something now, or you can't do it now, maybe later, but I think eventually people understand. But you do have to protect your own energy. That comes first, and I find that I feel better when I am able and I'm doing what you suggest, what you suggest. I am pausing and saying, okay, I need to get back to you so that I can make the best decision for myself, because if we don't protect our own energy, then we can't really do the work we need to do for others.

Speaker 2: 28:20

That's right, we're just burned out. At that point we're like a burned out crunchy mess. We get totally drained, Like what happens when you're around energy vampires. They suck you dry until you become an energy vampire, by the way. So you know, sometimes the biggest energy vampire in the room is the empath that has been so drained they don't even know that now they're an energy vampire. We have to really watch out for that.

Speaker 1: 28:46

Yes, absolutely I'd like to talk about you talked about a spirit team earlier that everyone has a spirit team, and then there's different guides, and I learned that also there's different guides for different things, like if you're a writer, if you're an artist, and then you also have some certain guides yourself. Can you talk about a little bit about these guides that we have, and maybe even I know you offer ways in your books to connect to them, but maybe some suggestions as well?

Speaker 2: 29:13

Yeah, it's one of the coolest and most exciting things I think about doing psychic development work is understanding who our team is. It's just so beautiful and magical. We all have a team. Never met anyone that didn't have a team, and often our team is very mixed, so it might be dead Uncle Fred and a bunch of angels and a few ascended masters and a couple of power animals and maybe some nature spirits. It's so unique for every person and I think it has a lot to do with our life purpose, our experiences, also who we're calling in, because we can call them in through prayer.

Speaker 2: 29:47

If you're praying every day for Archangel Michael to show up and protect you, he's going to be there. You know, and, like I can tell people who are like practicing, I'm like, did you grow up Catholic? You got a lot of saints and Jesus and Mary are here. You know, like you've done a lot of Hail Marys, I can tell you know they show up when we call on them, like you know, and and so we have them. They have sort of specific roles, you know. They might they're protector guides or, like Archangel Michael and his, his group of guides, they're working on, on protecting us.

Speaker 2: 30:20

They're teacher guides or healer guides. They're the spiritual director is one of the most important guides to know and that is the guide that is in charge of our spiritual evolution, you know, and are the lessons that were that were given and opportunities that were given here on earth. And then they, they, some of them stick with you forever. So some of them come and go, like I only have guides that show up when I'm writing or teaching. I've had guides that were with me for through a phase of life and then that phase passed and they're not there anymore. But there's always some consistency too.

Speaker 1: 30:56

Yeah, you say you have one in particular. You, uh, you have your bossy guide.

Speaker 2: 31:02

They're all bossy. All my guides are super, super bossy. I just show up and do what I'm told. I have 13 guides and my higher self is one of them and oftentimes, you know, I count people's higher self in with our team. Yeah, and I have a couple that like one. They also have a kind of snarky sense of humor, so I see them like there's one of one of them that has. They're like sitting at a conference, like a committee conference table, you know the council, and one of them's got the mic and they're like tap, tap, tap. Is this thing on? Can you hear us?

Speaker 2: 31:41

But since I was little my, agree, 14 or 15, I had this sort of revel, revelatory, psychic, you know spiritual epiphany, where I was given the assignment to do the work that I do here and they're like we're your team and you're you're. You have a lot of gifts and skills that you're going to give to the world. But the deal is you have to be of service and as long as you're using your gifts to help other people, you'll be given more and more gifts, more and more opportunities. But if you sort of use it for selfish reasons or you misuse, it's gone. And part of that deal was to do do what I'm told to be on assignment, you know, and, um, that's not everybody's relationship with our guides.

Speaker 2: 32:19

Some people hate being what's being told what to do and don't have bossy guides at all. But mine are really bossy and I just I, just that's it. I just show up and do what I'm told. Yeah, I'm gonna write another book, and I'm like, no, really and don't, and they'll keep reminding you. They're like I got that one. And then, like two hours later, my publisher called me and said, lisa, it's time to write another book.

Speaker 1: 32:41

No, my god okay, but you knew that already. I knew that already. You know um, and our guides are there. We can ask them for help. A lot of people forget to co-create with spirit. You know they're there to help you.

Speaker 2: 32:59

I mean, I think you should ask for help before your feet hit the bed every morning. You know like you. Totally agree.

Speaker 2: 33:04

Or you get out of bed like I don't know what I need today, but help me. And it's really important to do that because they have to operate under the rules of free will. Like free will, this is a free will dimension, and free will is very powerful. Your guides cannot help, but will not violate your free will or help you to violate the free will of other people, and so they almost need an invitation every single day. And even if it's okay if you're like I don't even know what I need, just help me, just give me. We can ask for specifics. It's really great to ask for ground support. I need more money, I need more help, I need more. You know whatever you need.

Speaker 2: 33:43

Then we have to sort of drop our expectation of how that shows up, because you know universe, god and spirit team is always way smarter than we are about how we're going to get that, and there's some kind of rules too, like they can't violate your free will. They won't clean up your mess. We're still held responsible for our actions. They won't take away your lessons for you is what would be the point. You know they can help you, they can assist you, they can help you, especially if we ask like see other, you know viewpoints, or open to other possibilities, or it's almost like our job is to feel really, really worthy of receiving their help, because I think we block it when we don't ask and when we don't feel worthy.

Speaker 1: 34:34

Yeah, you're right, Absolutely. One of the things I'm doing is because I have a hard time asking for help, because I always feel it. I think it stems from being a child. I was pretty independent. I was independent. Now I'm asking my spirit team to just provide the proper resources I need. Yeah, that's the ground support. Yeah, I love that the ground support. Yeah, because I won't just pick up the phone and ask someone for help you know, but I just want someone to be around at the right time that I need.

Speaker 2: 35:05

Yeah, I mean you're like, okay, I'll write the book, but that means you got to clear some space in my calendar. That means you have to help me get some extra money so I'm not, you know, worried about money and so I can drop some of the things out of my calendar and still have enough money. Like I'm like, all right, you know I've. They helped me find a great publisher, great editors, you know all those things, so they make it as easy as possible. You know it's still hard to do. Writing a book is difficult. Not going to lie, it's still hard to do.

Speaker 1: 35:32

Writing a book is difficult, not going to lie. Well, I'm writing one as well and I found who I think is a lovely person and I feel is going to be a great editor to work with, and it just happened. But I had asked for it. But, yes, I'm writing my first book, so congratulations, thank you. What's it about? So? It's about, so, the mother, the maiden and mother of crone. It's about the crone, but I don't like the word crone. And I woke up one day and I got all these downloads about calling that transition of life for women more of an empress energy.

Speaker 2: 36:08

Yeah, Queen is sometimes what people call it.

Speaker 1: 36:10

Queen. But empress came and I got all the downloads came and I was just writing, and writing, and writing.

Speaker 1: 36:17

And I was like wow, I'm really going to embrace the energy of this, empress energy and embody it. It's going to have also some other meditations and movement exercises, but also just a guidebook for women who forget that they're beautiful and forget that they're connected and they have so much wisdom and grace and they don't have to look like or feel like a hag or a crone or you know that older interpretation of what that is. So that's what my book is about.

Speaker 2: 36:46

I love it. That's so beautiful. Congratulations. Sounds like the world needs that work.

Speaker 1: 36:51

I hope so. I hope so. Maybe that's part of my life work.

Speaker 2: 36:54

I think, I'm sure.

Speaker 1: 36:56

Thank you. You mentioned at the beginning some Oracle cards and other divination tools. What are some that you use? Obviously you use cards. I love that. What are some that you don't recommend?

Speaker 2: 37:10

Ouija board. Do not use the Ouija board, Don't do it. Spirit boards in general, Ouija board in particular just a gateway right over to the dark side of the astral plane, the lower astral world, and it's just 8 million horror stories on what happens when you use the Ouija board. Yeah, I think that's really my only don't heavy, Don't do. Don't take the Ouija board to the abandoned mental hospital. You know, don't do that Like. But I think all of the pendulum can be really good dowsing rods.

Speaker 2: 37:46

I really love to teach muscle testing so I think everyone needs like psychic students need either pendulum, dowsing rods or muscle testing as a way to test, Not for predictive. It's not like I like a pendulum. It's not very good at predicting the future, it's kind of terrible at that but what it is good at doing is confirming or denying your psychic hits. So let's say you're asleep in the middle of the night and a spirit comes in and you're like oh, I think that's that Uncle Fred coming for a visit. And as soon as you think that you're like, what if it isn't? You go down the rabbit hole of doubt and that's when you pull out your divination tool like your pendulum or your dowsing rods Was that, Uncle Fred? And you just get a very clear yes, no, I don't know from your pendulum. And that's where it's really really useful. And I think the question you ask about trusting your head if you can check all of your psychic hits with the pendulum to confirm or deny, you're going to build a lot more trust in your own psychic hits.

Speaker 2: 38:51

And I'm a big time fan of the rider weight to road deck. I've I've used that for somebody gave me one when I was 16 and I just saw, I think. But there are many great ones. There's so many good art oracle cards. Just like every day there's new ones that come out. There are really great um runes are fantastic eating. I think whatever you vibe with is all good.

Speaker 1: 39:17

So I see an Oracle deck in your future. I'm not your spirit guide, but I would love to see you.

Speaker 2: 39:26

I wrote one, you did Yep, and I had the artist done and I'm seeking a publisher for it.

Speaker 1: 39:32

See, oh, you're super psychic.

Speaker 2: 39:36

That's in the process. I'm having a hard time finding someone who'll publish it.

Speaker 1: 39:39

Okay, Well yeah, I will be the first one to buy it and use it.

Speaker 2: 39:45

It's really cool. It's a beautiful deck.

Speaker 1: 39:47

I'm also working on one with a friend. She's a synesthesia artist Wow Cool. And we're combining our talents to create a deck as well, and it's really, you know, it's part of what we felt drawn to do and collaborate on, and I love the fact that I'm meeting people and collaborating with people. It's part of this wonderful community of healers, isn't that?

Speaker 2: 40:09

nice.

Speaker 1: 40:10

Yeah, it's beautiful. I love that too. We didn't talk about Reiki and psychic awareness. You wrote a book about that, which I love as well, and I love that you combine the two, I think. I think that once you become a Reiki practitioner, your psychic abilities will start to also flourish and open up. And can you talk about either how that all began for you or how, or just in general, talk those two modalities?

Speaker 2: 40:35

Yeah, so I've been a Reiki teacher for 25 years. I learned in 1999 and back then it was a really still weird thing to do, like still pretty fringy and edgy, and and I was already teaching. So I started teaching Reiki and I was teaching psychic, psychic development, and I found that my students would take both. They would take all my Reiki classes, they would take all my psychic development classes and it seemed to me like a really, really natural pairing. And then one day I got a Reiki student who was like, oh, I stepped back from Reiki healing because as soon as I got my Reiki level two attunement, she's like it opened up, like a portal in my psychic ability and all of a sudden she's, she was powerful mediumship ability. She's like my room was full of dead people at night and I was seeing colors around people and you know, spirits were coming into my Reiki sessions and I had an encounter with an angel and I saw something really dark and she's like she's freaked out and she asked her Reiki teacher to help her and the Reiki teacher said quit doing that, that's not part of Reiki, we're not going to talk about that. Stop that right now. And so she did. She stopped, she stopped everything and then finally she's like, oh my God, I just really need both and you do both. So what I found, that's when I wrote my book the Art of Psychic Reiki 2018. So what I've found, that's when I wrote my book, the Art of Psychic Reiki 2018.

Speaker 2: 41:57

And I've found I always say that Reiki, yoga and meditation are the three gateway activities that will open your psychic abilities and do so. If you have a lot of natural psychic ability and you start meditating, you start doing yoga, do Reiki, it's going to pop open, and it's good that it does, because, especially for Reiki practitioners, it's a fantastic add-on. And your empathic abilities, too. All of those are part of the toolkit of a healer. And isn't it an incredible opportunity for you to add another level of beautiful healing and provide value and service to your clients?

Speaker 2: 42:31

If you can communicate, you know, use your own intuition and in the middle of a Reiki session, or facilitate a communication between angels that you know, bring in the people's guides and it's just, it's just so good in every single way to be able to add that. And then the traditional Reiki training it's not, it's not a thing, it's not part of the conversation. And so many Reiki less now, but still I still. It's not a thing, it's not part of the conversation. And so many Reiki less now, but still I still hear this story a lot. So many traditional Reiki teachers just have nothing to say on the topic and they're like, they're just like stop that.

Speaker 1: 43:03

Yeah, I use both of the modalities. I mean, it's such a gift of healing for people, right they go together so well and and we need help accessing it.

Speaker 2: 43:13

So it's not. It can be scary, confusing, frightening, especially if you have that idea that it shouldn't be happening. You know, psychics, the devil, or like. You know, like it's, it's not good, um, then we shut it down and I don't think it goes well for people who have a ton of ability, who keep shutting it down. It doesn't. It ends up, you know, creating depression or just making you go a little nutty if you have a ton of psychic ability and you shut it down hard. So cause, I think it's meant, we're meant to use it.

Speaker 1: 43:46

Yeah, you offer. You offer classes that you know it's not it's. It's good to learn it because there's so many different Claire's that we have. We can hear things, we can see things, we can feel things, know things and learning about each one and what they are, what they do, how to connect with them, how to grow them. Maybe one's not right for you, whatever. That's all part of that learning process, so that you understand it and that's what you offer. You teach people how to do that.

Speaker 2: 44:13

Absolutely so. I teach psychic Reiki on my website. I have all three levels. You can take it online and the classes are fat, like my Reiki. Psychic Reiki level one is 16 hours of instruction and it's a combination of Reiki training Reiki level one plus empath training, all the energy management stuff you know. And then Reiki level two is Reiki two level training with psychic development.

Speaker 2: 44:35

Like let's figure out how to talk to our Reiki guides, let's talk about, like, what happens when we start feeling things or knowing things, and it's one of the coolest, I think, experiences Reiki. People who are receiving Reiki experiences what I call the invisible hands. You know, when you're receiving Reiki and you're like how many pairs of hands are there on me right now? You know, like, did somebody else come into the room? That happened to me when I my one of my first Reiki sessions.

Speaker 2: 45:01

I swear I could feel like three people working on me, to the point where I open my eyes and it's just one, one lady in there doing it and her hands around my head and I was like who's touching my feet, you know, and that it's there. Were guides in there, angels, I don't. Was some higher, higher beings that were in there doing the session that were touching my feet. So I think that is such a common um and beautiful experience we can have as as practitioners and clients, um, and we need help. We can't just open to that world without training, just like we can't open to the world of Reiki without training. We need training practice, a community, a mentor, all of those things to maximize that potential.

Speaker 1: 45:50

Yes, totally agree. Did you ever have anyone come through your hands and guide your hands while you're doing Reiki All the time?

Speaker 2: 45:58

Yeah, I've had that as well, especially when I was new and I didn't really know what I was doing. And now, even when I do complex things like psychic surgery on on people, I feel I've a surgical team that comes in and does like high level um, like DNA repair. You know like DNA repair, you know atomic level repair, quantum field repair, you know organ repair, all this really high level stuff. I don't do that, I just make the space and these guides come in and work through me when I'm doing that. So I think that everybody has that, whether we know about it or not. There are times when your guides step into you and are doing the healing for you.

Speaker 1: 46:42

Do you feel the more you practice? I think I know the answer, but I want everyone to hear it from you the more you practice anything, the better you will get it of course, yeah, and I mean I it's.

Speaker 2: 46:53

There's sort of this controversy about you know about the term reiki master and what that means, and I think this is something we need to be really humble about and, um, it's great if you get. I call it when I teach it. I call it Reiki level three. You know what I mean, cause, on Reiki master is sort of like you've done it for 10 years, you have 10,000, they say 10,000 hours and 10 years under your belt before you're you mastered something, and I think that's true. So, having some humility, having some continued education, so I have what I call Reiki level four, which is continuing ed for Reiki practitioners. So what do you do when you want more training but you've done all the levels, you know and you still want to learn things? And we talk about advanced energy, anatomy and chakras and energy fields and all kinds of sort of higher level things. So I think we keep studying, we keep growing and we keep practicing so we get to that level of mastery that we're looking for.

Speaker 1: 47:50

I love that. Looking ahead, how do you see these healing modalities evolving as our society becomes increasingly interested in holistic approaches to well-being and I know we've seen the growth, but do you see anything different? Or how do you see things evolving?

Speaker 2: 48:14

You know, when I started working in um and there are all the big city hospitals here in Rhode Island and Boston have Reiki units on them, now, full-time Reiki stuff. Um, and back when I was teaching, I would teach, taught a lot of nurses and they would have to hide what they were doing. They would have to. They were doing it on the sly, you know, and they would get in trouble if it was found out they were doing this. And now these same hospitals have full-time multiple. They have 20 full-time Reiki practitioners, or 10 plus 30 volunteers, you know. So I feel like there's more and more Dana-Farber, the famous cancer institute, has full-time Reiki practitioners for to receive, while you're receiving your chemotherapy treatments, that you can get Reiki. And it really there's quite a lot of you know scientific evidence that says this. This mitigates the you know side effects of chemotherapy. Um, so I think that world is going that way and more and more mainstream. I think people are very disappointed in our medical system and our mental health system. I don't think it's working for anybody, except maybe the insurance companies and big pharma, but no one else is happy with it. And so people are turning more and more to holistic modalities and alternative medicine and yet for me, like about five years ago, four years ago, I feel like I shifted, turned a corner.

Speaker 2: 49:37

I don't think I do Reiki anymore.

Speaker 2: 49:39

I do this other thing that I call quantum healing, and it's more like Reiki, is like a vibrational medicine. So it's using vibration to work on the physical, spiritual, physical, mental and emotional side of us, and sometimes it's spiritual, but quantum healing works with lights side of us, and sometimes it's spiritual, but quantum healing works with light instead of vibration and it works much more deeply on our light body. Our spiritual body really works across space and time, works through past lives and lineage stuff, kind of really healing things at the core of who we are on the quantum field, like your original self, even the self before you came down here, even the self that may be incarnating on other planets and places besides earth, and so there's so many people that are shifting into this quantum healing. You kind of see it around a lot now that word and I'm doing it myself, teaching it myself, and to me I think that's the future of energy healing. We were, I think we're going to move away from vibrational healing techniques and move more into these light healing techniques.

Speaker 2: 50:46

I love that, I would love to learn that and you teach that I will be teaching it for the first time in April in Newport, rhode Island, so come on down.

Speaker 1: 50:56

I will, actually I will. I'm definitely interested in learning that. I love that Pretty cool. Is there anything else you'd like to talk about before we wrap up any offerings besides the quantum healing one in April which you have? I know you have a lot on your website.

Speaker 2: 51:09

We do. Yeah, so I, besides having all of the levels of Reiki, I also have lots of psychic development programs from beginner, intermediate and to like pro level. So I think my the coolest thing that I do is I have a year long apprentice program that helps take people, give you everything you need to be a professional intuitive energy healer and it, you know, I I had to do it all alone Cause that was, it wasn't like 1987 when I started working as a psychic and I just I knew nothing. I had to do it all alone because that was. It was like 1987 when I started working as a psychic and I just I knew nothing. I had no help. There was no Internet about it in the library, no podcasts like this, nothing, zero.

Speaker 2: 51:50

And ever since then I've I've had to sort of forge ahead you know, bushwhack up the mountain and find my own path, and it was really hard for a lot of it. So I feel like deeply passionate about helping the other. My mission in life is to create an army of healers to go out there and save the planet and anything. I now more than ever I think there's more healers on the planet than ever has been and and I don't want people to have to struggle and thrash around and be and do it alone and make all the mistakes like I had to. If I can help other people learn easy, with more grace and ease than I did, that's really my passion. So, and I love that apprentice program because you can really buckle down and do do what I think you need to go pro so, but I have also all different kinds of levels for that and and that's what I'm really excited about right now- I love that, and you also have a lot of wonderful blog posts out there.

Speaker 1: 52:47

I was filtering through so much information, so I definitely I share everything with the audience and the show notes and I just I want to thank you for taking the time of your very busy schedule to be here. I was so looking forward to talking to you and connecting with you and I'm excited to have everyone listened and learn more about you and your offerings and all the beautiful things that you're doing.

Speaker 2: 53:06

So thank, you so much. Thank you for having me today. I really appreciate the conversation. It was really fun.

Speaker 1: 53:12

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