3D to 5D Consciousness Shift and Spiritual Evolution with Ann Jonas, The Love Messenger

In this episode, we explore the intricate journey of self-discovery and love with Ann Jonas, the Love Messenger. The discussion centers on understanding our inherent love, navigating life's challenges, and the importance of community and personal transformation.

• Anne's philosophy on love as our true nature
• The concept of "Earth school" as a framework for personal evolution
• Exploring E + R = O as a tool for response and power
• The importance of vibrational frequency and choosing our circle
• The relationship between the third and fifth dimensions
• The significance of community in the transformational journey
• Anne's transformational offerings and programs

The Lotus Path, love is where you will find everything that I offer transformational guidance, intuitive body work, sacred connection. There's a sacred connection community membership that is filled with previous recordings of the sacred connection webinar love, light chats, channeled guided journeys and meditations.

Ann Jonas, Transformational Guidance, is passionate about helping and supporting others to become more of who they truly are. She approaches her work from a holistic, intuitive, spiritual perspective with decades of experience as a bodyworker and birth doula. Today her most powerful gift is Living as a Being of Love and Light and offering guidance as a Shamanic Transformational Guide, Intuitive Healer, Bodyworker, Writer, Speaker, and Workshop Facilitator. She knows the beautiful mess that this life is while we are coming home to connection and presence with Self. She creates and holds space, in a safe container.

Key Quote: "Love is truly that inherent sense of being the self, the higher self and in relationship with the divine."

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Chapters

• 1:15 Love as Divine Connection
• 6:05 Sacred Connection and Transformational Guidance
• 9:41 Navigating Multi-Dimensional Perspectives and Choices
• 17:25 Understanding 3D and 5D Dimensions
• 32:10 Embracing Transformation Through Sacred Connection

Transcript

Rose: 0:00

Today on Chat Off The Mat. I welcome Ann Jonas, also known as the Love Messenger. She's passionate about helping and supporting others to become more of who they truly are. Anne's life journey has been that of the lotus, with plenty of mud as she found her ground and stability. From the depths of life's challenges, she stood up to meet and accept her path. Anne's life purpose is helping and supporting others to become more of who they truly are, to raise their consciousness and to remind them that they are a being of light and love. Welcome, anne.

Ann: 0:38

Yay, thank you, Rose. Thank you for the opportunity. I love this concept of chat off the mat. You know, the idea is that so much of the work, like the work of life, is to attempt to achieve balance, right? But here I'm. I'm actually was in a conversation this morning where it's about harmony and synergy in nature. There's no balance, there's no tit for tat, right. Everybody's doing that, the plants, the animals, they're all doing and being what's natural for their system. So I'm introducing myself, by way of speaking, into the collective energies because, in essence, that's so much of what I'm honoring as the love messenger.

Ann: 1:28

What I desire most is that all beings know love and that love is truly that inherent sense of being the self, the higher self and in relationship with the divine, which then brings us back to that harmony and synergy when we recognize that we're part of the collective and this time, that we're in this powerful astrological evolutionary experience. I love this stuff. I live for the deconstruct, I live for the metamorphosis. I get so excited about what I call the big 'T' transformation. I love movies that bring transformation and usually they're really cheesy, because that concept of being outside the box in our way of breathing, living and witnessing. That's my greatest joy to honor the now moment. I love saying this when we're here now we've won, and then we're one O-N-E with everything, and that's such an important part of this time. Whether we're here in this month or this year, the idea is that we are here to remember that we're one with everything, and that is a huge aspect of what I am, what I be, what I offer, what my work is, and I've aligned with God in the realm of not the Judeo-Christian God, the God of love.

Ann: 3:27

The title to my chapter in the book that I produced and curated Sacred Connection, pointing at it back there with six other beautiful co-authors is Love is Everything. We're talking about, the love that's inherent in our breath, in our existence, and, honestly, we can't experience love with another human being, or even an animal, if we're not experiencing it within ourselves. And that's where this idea of remembering remembering that we are love, we exist as love. It's our choice to see that, and that's a huge piece of this evolution that we are in the midst of. As things are and they've been topsy-turvy I'm a Gen Xer. I've been on the planet for 55 years and you know, I think the Gen Xers have seen the most growth in the realm of technology. I mean, we didn't. We didn't have an answering machine Like that was an answering machine with a little phone in the house and one phone in the house that had like a 50 foot cord right. That's the whole experience of incarnation.

Rose: 5:18

So how do you help people to grow and love and to return to that love of self, being the love messenger or with the work that you do?

Ann: 5:30

As transformational guidance that is a title I've given myself and the container of Sacred Connection, which is a. The book became a result of what was started out as a nine-week webinar, and that is where we dance in this concept of sacred connection, which is connection to self and the divine. What I offer, in whatever platform, whether it be my writing, my portal, energy perspective, guidance, my intuitive work, my channeling, is listening for what feels like it's missing. Remove the layers of what we know and we get curious and we feel. Our human culture, especially in our modern civilized Western world, wherever on the planet, is about learning and education and what we know. We don't know anything. All we're doing is taking in information and then somehow taking ownership of it and then wearing it as a reflection. When we allow ourselves to not know anything and to be again in the now moment to witness how we are moving, how we are responding, we actually take the pressure off. Actually take the pressure off. We take the pressure off and then we get to feel what feels aligned, what feels out of alignment, what feels harmonious, what feels uncomfortable, as the lotus path I know there is no lotus without mud there isn't Allowing ourselves to be in the mud. So when we fight the mud, we're in quicksand right Fighting the mud, it drops us. Yeah, but the other piece of this is to trust the mud, love the mud, Don't judge the mud.

Ann: 8:09

The mud is a consequence, and I say that word in a neutral way, because consequence is only the reaction to an experience. Reaction to an experience. There are consequences. We can say that a beautiful consequence. We don't need to say that it's a consequence without judgment. It's neutral. Everything we do has a response. I love this concept and I first heard it from Jack Canfield. E plus R equals O?

Rose: 8:47

Have you heard that before, rose? No, can you elaborate on that?

Ann: 8:50

I definitely will. So here's the thing E what's E? E are the events and the experiences in our an equal sign O the outcome. So, when we look at this equation, the event, the experience, it's gone, it's not here anymore, it's in the past. It could be yesterday, it could be last year, it could be when you were a child. How you feel about it, how you've navigated with it, how you've been with it, right, that's your response, it's your reaction to it.

Ann: 9:41

There are two basic choices Victor, victim, victim, empowered, disempowered. Those, then, are stories. That's the outcome. It doesn't matter what happened. What matters is how you feel about it, how you've moved through it, how you've allowed it, how you have chosen to have it inform your life. And that essentially brings us to another aspect of the spiritual journey. You chose this life, you chose your parents, you chose where you wanted to be born, you chose were you tapping into poverty or wealth and everything else? You know color the whole business? Right, those choices were made by your higher self, your soul, your consciousness, your spirit, whatever word you'd like to use as a reflection of the experience of the divine. Again, the word isn't important. It can be God, goddess, mystery, universe, energy, love all of it. We are in a co-collaborative, co-creative universe universe. Therefore, every choice you make has these repercussions. Ripples, if you will, and you, we, all of us are rippled right. We are like rolled around by everybody else's choices.

Rose: 11:26

Yeah, very vibrational.

Ann: 11:28

Exactly, it's all vibration, it's all vibration, it's all vibration, it's all vibration, it's all frequency, it's all energy. It's what we plug into, it's what we tap into. I mean, literally, we have a bazillion ways to get and I'm going to air, quote news, what is news and who is offering it and what is their perspective. So what are you tapping into? Where are you getting your energetic, vibrational frequency of information right? It's all information you know from the aspect of computers, for computer people, you know ones and zeros. They say ones and zeros, it's all that it is. It's all sacred geometry. It's all sacred geometry. It's frequency, the, the Hertz, the self-feggio scale, all of this Human resonance.

Ann: 12:30

Exactly, it's universal consciousness that we have full access to. It's a matter of what are we looking at? You know, we have this concept. We say out of sight, out of mind. That's what we say. If you don't see it, you're not going to think about it. What if we shifted it to out of mind, out of sight? So if we can't conceive of it, we won't even see it. If it doesn't make sense to us, we're not going to see it in the world. And that's where our viewpoints, that's where a lot of conflict happens. That's where our viewpoints become centered on how we are understanding the world that we know Again understanding know like we are tapped into what the mind has allowed us to accept and understand.

Rose: 13:40

Right, and there's a lot of information and it's really about it. Well, it's about attaching to. What we attach to is what really is highlighted, right? So Buddha talks about attachment as the yogic philosophy. We don't want to attach to something because that's what pulls us in that direction. We need to be more neutral and to be discerning. So, all that information that is out there, there's a lot, and you need to kind of, like you said, step back.

Ann: 14:10

And feel, and feel, and feel. I mean this is In the body Exactly. I mean our bodies are so capable of absorbing what's in the field without our consciousness, without our consciousness, we don't really want to think about, like, how we breathe and how our heart beats and how we digest and how we move muscles. We don't want to think about that. That's what our brain is designed for. Our brain is then witness Witness. How do you feel? And for many of us, our feelings have been cut off right. Our feelings aren't valid. Don't sweat the small stuff. Yes, sweat it all. Sweat it all. You know that story of the princess and the pea. What is it? 25 mattresses and she feels a pea. Okay, we're putting little peas all over our body.

Rose: 15:19

I sweat the small stuff and my husband always says don't sweat the small stuff. I know, but the small stuff. So somebody's got to sweat the small stuff.

Ann: 15:27

Well, if we don't sweat the small stuff, all the small stuff gathers together and it becomes bigger in the realm of dis ease, and I and I say that word very specifically dis with a dash ease. Okay, Dis ease is out of harmony, it's out of ease. And dis-ease is the body's way of finding its own resonance. I mean the concept of cancer. Cells are there alone. They want friends, Theyary experience of our evolutionary bodies. Now, we're all going to die, so that you know how we die is is. You don't know that, but that's that place to life and death. Right, they're really. They're one in the same as we're talking about. So being willing to look at through what we are allowing in is how we find more clarity.

Rose: 16:46

And one of the things I see here that you talk about is the concept of 3D and 5D.

Ann: 16:56

For those of you that have no concept 3D, 5d what are we talking about? We're talking about movies here. We're talking about, you know, geometry. The third dimension is our planet Earth. We are in the third dimension. One dimensional things are essentially flat, and then you have two dimensional things that have height and width. The third dimension is all of this experience. It's our planet's vibrational energy. It's about how much of our universal light is held in these containers of humanness, as well as the plants and the animals and the earth herself. We are all contained in the third dimension. It references, then, our perspective, and that keeps us in a container of this earth school.

Ann: 18:09

Essentially, this is a container of this earth school. Essentially, this is a container we already spoke to choosing our family, choosing our tribe, choosing the human form that we desire to be in on this planet. What we're looking at here is that there are multi-dimensional levels, layers, timelines in this universe, the two that we work with, for simplicity's sake. Third dimensional, fifth dimensional. Well, where's the four? The four is a bridge. The four, the four is a bridge. The fourth dimension is the acknowledgement, the awareness, that there is something more than what we consider to be matter. Earth is based in matter. It's based in this concrete ability to exist. When we move beyond the 3D, we are essentially allowing expansion.

Ann: 19:25

Let's also talk about some more human concepts. 3d is about duality. It's about polarity. Our earth has two poles, north and south. Our earth has night and day, it has sun and moon. These are all relevant to the learning that is received while in this container of earth school. Many of you know about the movie the Matrix. Well, it's not a movie, it's reality, and the people that made that movie are super tapped in. That's how I see it. The brothers that became sisters. I don't know if you know that story.

Rose: 20:13

You wonder where the information comes from right. Somebody knows it and lives it.

Ann: 20:18

Exactly Well, here's the thing. We all have access to it. It and lives it. Exactly Well, here's the thing. We all have access to it. It's not just filmmakers, it's not people that talk on podcasts. It is available to all of us and that is the place that we experience when we go into silence. This is a powerful one. Listen and silent this is a powerful one. Listen and silent. They have the same letters. Here's another one Creation and reaction, same letters. They are intricately connected. To listen, we must be silent To have creation. We are in a reaction when we honor that. Our power is always within us and we don't have to force it. Power versus force. Our power is inherent in our existence. All of this is informing.

Ann: 21:25

How do we understand this 3D matrix? Right, this 3D concept? It's serving. It serves us to understand our evolutionary journey and, inherently, it has this concept of the, of the but B U T. Look around our world. That's everything that we navigate. It's inherent when we step into, when we open to, when we allow surrender.

Ann: 22:18

We talked about attachment. When we release attachment, then we stand in oneness, inclusivity and A-N-D that word instead of but. It's all about recognizing that we are expansive. We are greater than what this human form and what this the matter that's all around us our tables, our computers, our cars, our homes, I mean truly even the earth itself those the facets of what have built the container that's our home. We need to be in relationship with the cycles and the seasons, these astrological things that maybe we don't understand. They are a part of how we're holding our evolutionary experience. Again, it's this piece of choice and reflection. As we choose, as we witness, we are mirroring constantly, we are reflecting how we feel and how we be to the world around us, and we're seeing ourselves through the world around us. This is a fun thing to talk about. You are a product of the five people closest to you. A product of the five people closest to you. When you look at the five, people closest to you.

Rose: 24:13

You're going to see yourself. Yeah, you're right. I know that because I yes from doing all the work.

Ann: 24:19

Yes, this is what I observe.

Rose: 24:20

Yeah, and that's why I fight less with them.

Ann: 24:21

Yes, exactly Because you're also fighting less with yourself.

Rose: 24:24

Yeah, yeah, I'm more at peace because I know not to fight, because I see myself in that reaction or that way. A person is and I'm like, okay, that's me.

Ann: 24:33

So yes, and so I mean that might not feel so good to you right now for somebody who's listening, and they're like oh wow, I don't really, oh, my goodness, okay. Well, here's what you have the opportunity to do now is now go to the mirror, go to the physical mirror. Take a look at how you're responding to things. Are you taking things personally? Are you making assumptions? This is the four agreements. Don Miguel Ruiz love the four agreements. They are foundational. Actually is how I see it.

Ann: 25:10

When we are willing to be sovereign did you hear that? When we are willing to be sovereign, that means that we are making choices for ourselves. That's a fifth dimensional concept. We're not stuck in the life, that, the lot that's been handed out to us, everything is a choice, and that's where the layers of dimensions create expansion, awareness we can't even fathom as a human really of what's available. How do you navigate that? What is in your world, how you see your world and how you respond to your world? That will bring a sense of power that you are choosing this life, and I know that may sound yucky to you if it doesn't feel good, but if you're here, that means you desire to expand, to grow, to transform Okay, butterflies. That is not an easy journey, people. That little caterpillar goes and puts itself in a container and then turns to goo.

Rose: 26:43

It's so strange. Last night, before I went to bed, I don't know why, I was thinking about a butterfly and it's transformational journey and I was like, wow, and then you talk about it. So, yes, it's not easy. And for those people out there who have been doing the work and the journey, keep doing it, keep working and keep noticing and yeah, it's all worth it. It's not done and it's worth it. It may be, it may. It may be tiring and it may but it's exhausting.

Ann: 27:13

It's exhausting, we can go there. It's exhausting and exciting. They're both E words, right, and they both have an X in them. I mean, you know, this is the thing, the language that we have access to. Spelling spell, spell like witchcraft, magic.

Rose: 27:36

Yes.

Ann: 27:37

We are spelling our lives through how we are speaking about our lives.

Rose: 27:45

Yep, we're spellcasters instead of podcasters.

Ann: 27:48

Exactly, I love it. I do too.

Rose: 27:53

I love that. I love how you're using language and one of the things I always encourage people is that you know, when you say a word, think about what the opposite is. You know we talked about polarity, but think about the opposite. Don't always just worry about that, not just in. I'm talking about negative terms, negative reactions, negative feelings. You know, think about what the opposite is. You know, don't just feel into that one side, feel into the other and even both sides. If you're way too happy, understand what it's like just to be not so happy, so that you can respond to people who are in your life that may not be as content as you are, so that you have a little bit more compassion. But there's just. We can keep talking about this. But, yes, I love the way you use language.

Ann: 28:42

What you're bringing up is perspective, the idea, again, that what you know to be true is not what somebody else knows to be true and it doesn't make anybody anybody wrong. Let's look at the concept of choosing a challenging life story. There's going to be an opposite growth edge, okay, so much so that you were literally tossed aside. You started the journey with your intention first and foremost. Your intention first and foremost. And then it takes your life choices, your life experiences to gather the information that says I'm fabulous as me. I didn't need the parents that birthed me. I received my journey through the opportunities that came into my world, to strengthen, to chip away. You know, the sculptures start as a block. Right, they don't come from the bottom. I mean, yes, we can put stuff on a wheel and we can build it that way, but we chip away what's not necessary for the end result. So we come in as a block and we chip away through this life.

Ann: 30:32

How we witness the world respond to us, and that's not just people, that's. How do we respond to time, how do we respond to the weather? How do we respond to what we might consider life upsets? You know, car accidents, appliances breaking down. I mean, you name it. Life is full of opportunities to respond and choose to say hmm, what am I going to learn from this Earth school, friends, earth school? That everything is a teacher.

Rose: 31:15

Yeah, I encourage. I know in my life I've had challenges but I've always tried to find, I guess, the silver lining or what I'm grateful for, because they've all taught me something and they've led me to where I am today and I'm happy. In whatever shape, whatever dimension I'm in right now. I'm content, I'm happy and you know and it. But it took work to get here. I had to chip away a lot and it takes time to chip away. You know you get, but it took work to get here. I had to chip away a lot and it takes time to chip away. You know you get that little chisel and you just keep going. So you are a person that helps people to chip away at those things by working with, by individual. How do you so? How do you circling back to that? How do you work with people? What do you offer as your offerings in your sacred space? And tell us how you do that and how people can find you and your offerings.

Ann: 32:10

Our lives are filled with information and as transformational guidance. I look for the information and I ask questions, I get curious, I unpack, I reveal what's not being spoken as I listen, and I do that through, essentially, a model of guidance or coaching which is done here in this beautiful container. I love these boxes and because we have access. I mean COVID was a gift to our planet. Friends, it really was. It brought us back to being human beings again, not human doings. Back to being human beings again, not human doings. It expanded our reach globally and for a lot of people it brought clarity around the density Our choices and our allowing is what brings us our greatness, witnessing ourselves. Sacred Connection is a container that the divine brought to me when I was at one of the lowest points in my life and everything felt like it had fallen apart, that I had nothing to look at, and I asked for one thing. I said okay, god, guides, whatever. Come give me a message tonight when I go to bed, that'll be easy. Well, I got nothing that first night and I figured I'll try again. Take two I was woken up almost violently with information and words and I sat in bed and I thumbed out a lot. It was a download and it was essentially. What came through was an email that I wrote Speaking to how we are all segregated by our parts. All of our parts, whether you look at the human condition parts or the previous life parts were segregated. And then I was given this offering of Sacred Connection a nine-week webinar. I have done eight rounds now since October of 22. We start round nine on January 16th.

Ann: 34:49

Thelotuspathlove that's who I am no mud, no lotus, that's Thich Nhat Hanh. Thelotuspathlove is where you will find everything that I offer. The lotus path, love is where you will find everything that I offer transformational guidance, intuitive body work, sacred connection. There's a sacred connection community membership that is filled with previous recordings of the sacred connection webinar love, light chats, channeled guided journeys and meditations. And that is a place to be a part of community. Community that sees this potency of life, community that recognizes that we are here to be in relationship with self and the divine. And those are all the ways that you get to play with me, and it is my absolute joy to connect with other light-minded, light, l-i-g-h-t. Light-minded beings that recognize we are here to learn and grow, to evolve, to feel, to love.

Rose: 35:59

I'm sure that you'll be doing even much more work on the fifth dimension level. So thank you and beyond to infinity and beyond.

Ann: 36:08

as Buzz Lightyear likes to say, I bring in all of what is available and I dance. Let's dance together. It's my greatest joy.